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The Debate Now: Does The Coronavirus Still Even Exist?
Gateway Pundit ^ | 06/03/2020 | Eric A. Blair

Posted on 06/03/2020 6:34:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

A pair of front-line doctors in Italy battling COVID-19, which hit the nation hard, killing thousands, now say the coronavirus either “clinically no longer exists,” or is greatly weakened.

“In reality, the virus clinically no longer exists in Italy,” Alberto Zangrillo, the head of the San Raffaele Hospital in Milan, said, according to Reuters.

“The swabs that were performed over the last 10 days showed a viral load in quantitative terms that was absolutely infinitesimal compared to the ones carried out a month or two months ago,” he told RAI television.

Matteo Bassetti, the director of the infectious diseases clinic of the San Martino hospital in Genoa, also said Monday that the virus is no longer as potent. The virus “may now be different: the firepower it had two months ago is not the same firepower it has today,” he said, the Italian news agency ANSA reported.

“Currently the new coronavirus is circulating less, that is, the viral load in circulation among the population has diminished and this is the effect of both the lockdown and the measures still in place such as use of the masks and distancing.”

COVID-19 cases peaked in mid-April and while numbers continue to stay high, most experts attribute that to the surge in testing. “Italy, specifically, now averages fewer than 100 COVID-19 deaths per day after becoming the global epicenter just two months ago,” Reuters reported.

Zangrillo said some experts continue to be alarmist about the prospect of a second wave of infections and added that politicians need to take into account the new reality.

The two claims from the doctors have set off a global debate. Coronaviruses are known to wilt in the heat and humidity, but it’s too early in the summer months to determine if that’s what’s happening with SARS-CoV-2.

Franco Locatelli, the head of Italy’s top health advisory body, took issue with the two doctors.

“I can only express great surprise and absolute bewilderment for the statements made by Professor Zangrillo. Just look at the number of new cases confirmed every day to have evidence of the persistent circulation of the virus in Italy,” he told ANSA.

Sandra Zampa, an undersecretary at the health ministry, also cautioned, “Pending scientific evidence to support the thesis that the virus has disappeared … I would invite those who say they are sure of it not to confuse Italians,” she said in a statement, Reuters reported.

Meanwhile, the World Health Organization (WHO), warned Monday that the virus has not suddenly become less lethal. “This is still a killer virus,” Michael Ryan, executive director of the WHO’s health emergencies program, told a virtual press briefing on Monday.

“We need to be exceptionally careful not to create a sense that, all of a sudden, the virus, by its own volition, has now decided to be less pathogenic. That is not the case at all,” Ryan said. “It may not be the case that the virus is becoming less potent, it may be the case that we are, as a community and as a globe, are successfully reducing the number, intensity and frequency of exposure to that virus, which then on the face of it, then looks weaker.”


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: anthonyfauci; coronavirus; deborahbirx; ghebreyesus; who
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1 posted on 06/03/2020 6:34:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Who cares? I can’t breathe....


2 posted on 06/03/2020 6:35:41 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did “IT” EVER exist ???!!!!


3 posted on 06/03/2020 6:39:41 PM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray ....)
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To: nevermorelenore

RE: Did “IT” EVER exist ???!!!!

You mean my friend who tested positive and died, died of something else?


4 posted on 06/03/2020 6:41:13 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: SeekAndFind
Yeah, as just reported George Floyd had it when he died.

So I guess they have to drop the charges against the cops now ...

5 posted on 06/03/2020 6:42:05 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING)
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To: SeekAndFind

Yes!! It was alive and well in George Floyd!!


6 posted on 06/03/2020 6:42:53 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nope.


7 posted on 06/03/2020 6:45:08 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Covid-19 sure stole Greta Thor’s thunder. HOW DARE YOU, PGalt. C’mon man. At least the eugenicists let you make it...so far.

What’s next after THIS pre-meditated, well-orchestrated, propagandist-aggravated attack on the republic?

Oh, say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave?
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!


8 posted on 06/03/2020 6:51:28 PM PDT by PGalt (Past Peak Civilization?)
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To: SeekAndFind

A virus, maybe, not necessarily WuFLu, the test was imperfect and tested positive for many reasons


9 posted on 06/03/2020 6:55:12 PM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray ....)
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To: SeekAndFind
Maybe Dr. Birx will present the graphs in two weeks showing which riot-torn cities have spikes in Covid case reports.

-PJ

10 posted on 06/03/2020 6:59:35 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Freedom of the press is the People's right to publish, not CNN's right to the 1st question.)
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To: SeekAndFind
You mean my friend who tested positive and died, died of something else?<<<<<

He may have...did he have any underlying conditions?

I recently lost an good friend due to complications from a broken hip.....but he was 92 yrs old....

11 posted on 06/03/2020 7:02:39 PM PDT by M-cubed (The MSM is now the 4th Branch of Government.....)
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To: SeekAndFind

I just read that George Floyd tested positive for the Wuhan flu.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2020-06-03/autopsy-report-shows-floyd-had-tested-positive-for-covid-19


12 posted on 06/03/2020 7:06:56 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: SeekAndFind

If covid-19 is alive, all those rioters and looters will soon get very sick. There was no social distancing.


13 posted on 06/03/2020 7:11:08 PM PDT by entropy12 (covid-19 separates the fearful from the freedom loving! If I am not afraid, no one should be.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So yes the virus is still out there. And new cases are likely growing since the reopening. It's still deadly.

I do expect to see a spike from the protests, but there was a lot of mask wearing. And I've stated before that I think mask wearing is more important than the 6' rule. On the other hand, it's mostly young people who were protesting, So it may actually be another week while they spread it around.

14 posted on 06/03/2020 7:27:10 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

We’ll know in a week...

Rioters weren’t wearing masks and protesters were NOT 6 feet apart. Plus all of ‘em were kept touching and adjusting their masks.

If there’s NOT a big bump in cases next week, the pandemic is basically O-VAR.


15 posted on 06/03/2020 7:31:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (The mood in the country changed last night. NO ONE backing looters will win.)
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To: DannyTN

You are an effin joke.


16 posted on 06/03/2020 7:32:59 PM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: SeekAndFind

For your enjoyment.
You know when more and more people make fun of it, it is about over!

Why the Lockdown Should Last Longer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxznGIj8Ja0


17 posted on 06/03/2020 7:33:29 PM PDT by TianaHighrider (God bless President Trump)
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s very real, and it was terrible for immuno-compromised people, but I too believe that it has weakened now, and is less capable of delivering a high viral load.


18 posted on 06/03/2020 7:36:51 PM PDT by alstewartfan (One day he just washed up on the shores of his regrets. May his soul rest in peace. Al S.)
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To: going hot

Has been for a while.


19 posted on 06/03/2020 7:37:59 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump predicted this, and it looks like he again nailed it.


20 posted on 06/03/2020 7:38:16 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Follow your Inner Trump)
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