Posted on 05/21/2020 11:43:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
A comparison of data available as of today, shows that the China coronavirus is not as deadly as the Spanish flu of 1918. As a matter of fact, it’s not as deadly as the seasonal flu.
In 1918 the world suffered from the Spanish flu. The flu devastated the Western world as was reported by History.com:
The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, the deadliest in history, infected an estimated 500 million people worldwide—about one-third of the planet’s population—and killed an estimated 20 million to 50 million victims, including some 675,000 Americans. The 1918 flu was first observed in Europe, the United States and parts of Asia before swiftly spreading around the world. At the time, there were no effective drugs or vaccines to treat this killer flu strain. Citizens were ordered to wear masks, schools, theaters and businesses were shuttered and bodies piled up in makeshift morgues before the virus ended its deadly global march.
One in three people in the world were infected with the Spanish flu and between 20 to 50 million died. In the US 675,000 people died from the Spanish flu, out of a population of around 104,550,000.
The seasonal flu worldwide is no Spanish flu but millions do reportedly suffer from the flu annually. According to the World Health Organization (WHO) the flu kills an estimated 650,000 people annually worldwide. The CDC estimates that in the 2020 flu season, around 43,000 Americans died from the flu.
The China coronavirus, which the world reacted to with total shut downs and panic, is not as serious as the Spanish flu and isn’t even as deadly as the flu this year worldwide. To date nearly 330,000 people have died from COVID-19 worldwide. This is horrible but how does it compare to the Spanish flu or the flu?
The China coronavirus has less than 1% of the deaths that occurred worldwide during the Spanish flu.
Put another way, if the same percent of individuals died from the China coronavirus as died from the Spanish flu, there would be over 181 million deaths from the coronavirus.
Also, note that to date, the China coronavirus is not even as deadly as the seasonal flu to date worldwide. It’s about half of the seasonal flu.
The fact is these guys are SPEAKING TOO SOON. We are NOT even halfway through the year 2020 yet!
If the “Seasonal” Flu was 1.5 times as deadly, would we shut down the country for it?
If Corona Virus after nearly 3 months of outbreak is not even at “seasonal” flu levels?
None of this matches China virus at all. It is just like a flu: really dangerous for the elderly and already ill but very few people who are young and healthy will be harmed much long term, if at all, by getting this. Some will, no doubt. But a small portion only.
This is what the actual no kidding results in the USA have been. It's not a hypothetical model of who we think get it, it's actual stats. The elderly and already sick are a gigantic proportion of the deaths.
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Exactly
We are comparing the totality of 2 other disease epidemics to 4 months of this one,
However, if the comparative death rates hold true for the future, then the point can be supported
SOURCE: https://www.globalresearch.ca/flu-bigger-concern-wuhan-virus-grabs-headlines/5701932
It says:
“The common flu causes up to 5 million cases of severe illness worldwide and kills up to 650,000 people every year, according to the World Health Organization”
Please note the words: EVERY YEAR.
From the same website, it says:
In the US:
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates that so far this season, there have been at least 15 million flu illnesses for the 2019-2020 season, 140,000 hospitalizations and 8,200 deaths in the U.S. The CDC reports there have been 54 reported flu-related pediatric deaths this season from Influenza B viruses. (The Hill)
NOTE: 8,200 dead in the U.S. <-— And please let me add the word “only” before 8,200 ( not to be cavalier about it, but we are making comparisons ).
In the USA, we have nearly 90,000 DEATHS from Covid-19, even with CDC exaggerations and miscounting, and Dr. Birx’s claim that the overcounts are about 25%, We would have at least 66,000 deaths from Covid-19 compared to 8,200 deaths as per CDC. And this is only for 3 months of the pandemic in the USA !!
So no, we cannot underestimate the lethality of Covid-19 — IT IS MUCH DEADLIER that the flu.
Seasonal flu doesn’t kill tens of thousands of Americans every year. The CDC “estimates” (manipulates) the flu statistics to scare people into getting flu shots. Some of us have tried and tried to explain it here. We’ve given up trying now because everyone (Republicans and Dems alike) just keep repeating the CDC’s fictional flu numbers as fact, without questioning them.
This is key! In the entire world, only 5 million people--or 1 in 1,555 people--have been infected with Covid-19. Of course not as many have died! If a similar number were infected, we would have 170 million deaths. Yes, we can reach that--if we ignore the science and instead cling to conspiracy theories that are abounding right now.
The CDC estimates that in the 2020 flu season, around 43,000 Americans died from the flu.
So, the article already contradicts itself. Already, 93,439 Americans have died from Covid-19--and the number sick is not even close to the number that get sick from the flu every year.
Not even creative and dishonest use of statistics make this author's point.
I know a lot of people (who have ulterior motives, perhaps?) don't like to hear that the lockdowns worked. But they did. As long as we keep up with social distancing and public health officials do their part with contact tracing, testing, and so forth, we still have a window to stop this thing long before it reaches the death toll of the 1917-1919 H1N1 influenza pandemic.
That might change if we knew the real Chinese numbers
This IS NOT The Spanish Flu.
Never has been and never will be.
The only achievements of the draconian lockdowns were a heavily damaged, if not destroyed economy, increase in poverty, drug, spousal and child abuse and an increase in severe depression and suicides.
Sweden got it right.
Comparing a three wave influenza epidemic to a three month virus makes sense.
I love the new wave of statisticians out there.
The death toll is over 90,000 after 3.5 months. The average death rate of the annual flu is around 40,000.
Is 90,000 larger than 40,000?
I am not saying the world should shut down for CV, but dude...learn your greater than, less than computations.
Bush league statisticians are amazing.
“If Corona Virus after nearly 3 months of outbreak is not even at “seasonal” flu levels?”
CCP-19 is killing people faster than the Spanish Flu did - here in the US, and nobody should give a rat’s ass about the stats from the rest of the world anymore as it has been proven over and over that most, if not virtually all, countries are cooking the books to downplay the death toll and cover their own asses - right now at this time.
The average deaths per day from the Spanish Flu over its 2-year rampage was fewer than 1,000 (in the US) per day. The daily death toll from CCP-19 (in the US) is well above that even with all the mitigation. Once we open back up, the death rate will jump and if we haven’t hit a quarter million deaths by the end of the year I’ll be surprised. All so a few loud-mouthed self-servatives can get back to scamming people out of their money, not paying their child support, and boinking their mistresses.
Annual flu and Seasonal flu are not words that connote the same meanings.
All flu is seasonal, so its runtime is not the same over a whole year. It flairs up in the colder indoor weather. So...dude, learn that these statistics and what terms being used are not the same.
Does Covid 19 have the same seasonal profile of the flu? That is a great question and one with big ramifications.
“The death toll is over 90,000 after 3.5 months. The average death rate of the annual flu is around 40,000.”
I am grateful that you are posting accurate numbers. We can’t shut down the economy, or even 10% of it, for more than a few months. Covid may be less dead than the Spanish flu, but getting good information on something that happened 100 years ago is difficult. The caution and shutdowns were warranted, but we are learning how to minimize the number of infections. The young and healthy should be working, taking risks but also taking precautions. Anyone high risk should be getting out of the way.
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