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Something Is Not Right With This Testing
Vanity | 5/4/2020 | self

Posted on 05/04/2020 11:20:21 AM PDT by sonrise57

My Quest Diagnostics anti-body test was negative. I can't help but feel that there is something fishy with this and the other tests that are being pushed on us.

It seems almost impossible to me that I was not exposed to the novel coronavirus. Here is why I feel that way:

1. About a week after sitting for 3 hours in an enclosed room to hear a young pastor's oral ordination exam, a fellow examiner alerted me that he had tested positive for the virus and his whole house was on lockdown (end of March). Three members of this pastor's congregation were hospitalized and went to their reward.

2. My daughter is an RN. She lives in our home and has had regular exposure to the virus (she uses PPE) and has also tested negative for the antibodies.

3. A young woman who boards with our family works in fast food and the restaurant where she works has had several postive cases.

4. One of the facilities I visit as a hospice chaplain (before the Dr. took me off the road) has had over 79 positive cases and 9 deaths.

How is it possible I have had no exposure? My conclusion-- a. I am lucky; b. I have natural immunity or resistance; c. this virus is not as infectious as the fear mongers want us to believe, OR d. the whole testing thing is an incompetently administrated scam.

Any thoughts?


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: antibody; bigpharma; coronavanity; coronavirus; covid10
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To: sonrise57

If you have kept up the regimen you describe— then, with the addition of Quercitin.... that is the exact regiment recommended for physicians who are treating SARSCOV2-19 CCP virus patients— for them to take as preventative.

Recommended by a physician learning you tub page called MedCram. Excellent series of videos, meant for professionals to keep from getting infected. This would explain it. The N-acetyl Cysteine is the supplement which makes the ACE2 receptor site on cells less able to accept the Virus “corona” S proteins-—IOW it blocks the receptor.

Incredibly really important is the ACE Blocker Losartan (CoZaar brandname) it BLOCKS the ACE2 receptors most prevalent in the lungs where the virus tries to get into those cells. The LOSARTAN is probably the MAJOR reason why you have not been infected,along with good hygeine. Keep taking it, as well as the regimen you have. The Losartan makes the quercitin less important.

Question for you: where do you obtain NAC? caps/tablets— how?

Here are the two videos that apply to your Qs:

March 16th on the ACE2 receptor blocking:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vZDVbqRhyM

April21-On the doctors daily practice routine- supplements, and his sterile procedure for gowns, gloves mask coming home, etc— you don’t need that info if you’re not an MD. The supplements he lists—every thing you take except losartan and quercitin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM2A2xNLWR4


61 posted on 05/04/2020 12:41:58 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: sonrise57

“I take zinc, vitamin D, vitamin C, and NAC supplemenst daily.”

That might be your answer right there. These are great supplements to help prevent catching viruses and other infections. I take zinc, vitamins D & C, and in more recent times occasionally liposomal glutathione (better than NAC, but more expensive), and I haven’t caught the flu in over a decade.


62 posted on 05/04/2020 12:45:57 PM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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To: sonrise57

Antibody tests aren’t being pushed on anybody because we have no idea what they mean. There clearly are false positives and false negatives, they don’t indicate active infection and they don’t indicate immunity.

Not sure why anyone would do one at this point. They may have some usefulness for population screening - I mean, like, a million tests a week for twelve weeks.


63 posted on 05/04/2020 12:46:39 PM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: sonrise57

I don’t know what you mean by (4), but the first three you list sound like POSSIBLE exposure, but scant reason to PRESUME you’ve been exposed.
1) He wasn’t positive yet when you interviewed him.
2) LOTS of nurses AREN’T positive.
3) Lots of people were tested positive at the restaurant... but not 100%. Why think she’s positive?


64 posted on 05/04/2020 12:59:57 PM PDT by dangus
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To: CaptainK

good question. i’ve been told that nobody knows the answer to how long the antibodies last for this virus.

since it is a cold virus, it could act like other ones, where the protection is temporary. you get the same cold every year or twice a year. or it could be permanent or somewhere in the middle with IgM immunity.

for what its worth, i’m told that the hospital is planning for another surge in nov.


65 posted on 05/04/2020 1:01:07 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: sonrise57

Your immune system is apparently strong. I never get the flu shot, and rarely get the flu. When I have gotten the flu, it is a one or 2 day experience, and then I’m done with it. Yet others are sick for weeks before they feel normal. This virus does not have super powers to infect everyone, despite what the media is telling us. So just because you have been around people with it, doesn’t mean you have to have it.


66 posted on 05/04/2020 1:08:55 PM PDT by Nevadan
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To: sonrise57

being exposed is not the same thing as being infected, and antibodies develop only if one is infected ...


67 posted on 05/04/2020 1:25:57 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: sonrise57

Do you know if these Quest Diag offices all perform this test? Most?


68 posted on 05/04/2020 1:31:45 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: John S Mosby

Thank you so much. Very informative. My mother was a huge Vitamine C person-years before it was a thing. She was Cadet Nurse during WW2 and was the RN for the Dr. in Passaic, NJ who pioneered the reatachement of severed limbs. She instilled in me the value of supplementation, so I have been researching what kind of supplements are having contributing to COVID resistance/immunity. One thing I failed to mention in my litany is that my wife and returned from a cruise on February 29, so there were so many opportunities for exposure. Again— thanks for the information.


69 posted on 05/04/2020 1:33:30 PM PDT by sonrise57 (God have mercy on us, protect our President and grace him with humility, wisdom and reciliance.)
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To: sonrise57

it’s also possible the Quest antibody test is simply unreliable; most of the C-19 tests currently in use were never independently validated by the FDA for accuracy, but instead were “approved” on an emergency-only basis ...

unless a test has been thoroughly validated on thousands of subjects, some of whom are are known to be positive, some known to be negative and some whom are unknown, and all of this is done under rigorous conditions, a tst might have a very large false positive or a very large false negative rate, both, or those rates might be unknown ...


70 posted on 05/04/2020 1:34:29 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: John S Mosby

Forgot to answer one of your questions. I get the NAC tablets from Puritan Pride.


71 posted on 05/04/2020 1:35:53 PM PDT by sonrise57 (God have mercy on us, protect our President and grace him with humility, wisdom and reciliance.)
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To: fuzzylogic

They have offices in our local Immediate Care offices.


72 posted on 05/04/2020 1:36:37 PM PDT by sonrise57 (God have mercy on us, protect our President and grace him with humility, wisdom and reciliance.)
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To: dadfly

Thanks so much for all that information.


73 posted on 05/04/2020 1:38:01 PM PDT by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: All; catnipman

If done recently at Quest ($119.) this was a blood draw test (not a finger stick test)...the recently FDA approved Roche blood draw antibody test is close to 100% accurate. (Am not sure what brand test Quest is currently using).

https://www.zdnet.com/article/i-got-quests-new-covid-19-antibody-test-and-it-was-strange/

https://questdirect.questdiagnostics.com/products/covid-19-immune-response/b580e541-78a5-48a6-b17b-7bad949dcb57

https://education.questdiagnostics.com/faq/FAQ219

https://www.roche.com/media/releases/med-cor-2020-05-03.htm


74 posted on 05/04/2020 1:52:14 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Drago

quest indicates that they’re not using an FDA-validated test:

https://education.questdiagnostics.com/faq/FAQ219


75 posted on 05/04/2020 2:13:33 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman

For $119. they should go ahead and get the Roche test:

https://www.roche.com/media/releases/med-cor-2020-05-03.htm

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-antibody-test-roche-fda-approval/


76 posted on 05/04/2020 2:18:55 PM PDT by Drago
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To: sonrise57

Maybe you were exposed but produced no antibodies? Is that possible?


77 posted on 05/04/2020 2:55:42 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: BeauBo
"Was your test a nasal swab to see if you have an active infection, or a blood test, to see if you had the disease in the past?"

Just had my first Covid test Sat morning, and they did *both* blood & swabs - including swabs in both nostrils. This is because I'm slated for an outpatient procedure on Weds, and the clinic now requires this level of testing before your operation. Wow, what a difference 5-1/2 weeks makes .... at my previous procedure, I was the only one in the clinic who had on a mask and gloves. (Other than the staff who were about to enter the operating room with me, who put them on at the last minute). I asked about the lack of PPE, but they seemed pretty nonchalant about it.

78 posted on 05/04/2020 3:18:38 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC ("May You Live in Interesting Times": Ancient Chinese Curse. The Wuhanic Plague: Modern Chinese Curse)
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To: sonrise57

You are now to take up your brothers lamp and wield it...as you are now doing.


79 posted on 05/04/2020 4:04:28 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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To: sonrise57

I do not want to be in another government database....


80 posted on 05/04/2020 4:43:26 PM PDT by billphx (“Political correctness is tyranny with a happy face” Charlton Heston)
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