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A Comparison of Lockdown UK With Non-Lockdown Sweden, Which Country is Faring Better?
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| 04/15/2020
| Rob Slane
Posted on 04/15/2020 10:12:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
So far as I am aware, Sweden remains the only major Western country that has not imposed a strict lockdown on its citizens to deal with the Covid-19 outbreak. Other than a ban on gatherings of 50 or more people, and advice such as over-70s being urged to stay at home, Swedish schools, shops, restaurants and pubs all remain open. It almost seems to me that the Government there has decided to treat grown adults like they are … well grown adults.
However, despite being a sovereign nation, with the right to set its own policy, it appears that this is not acceptable to the “international community”, and the Swedish Government is coming under huge pressure to change course. The World Health Organization (WHO), for instance, recently called for the nation to impose more restrictions, saying that it is “imperative” that Sweden:
“increase measures to control spread of the virus, prepare and increase capacity of the health system to cope, ensure physical distancing and communicate the why and how of all measures to the population.”
Donald Trump also felt the need to give his two cents as well:
“Sweden did that, the herd, they call it the herd. Sweden’s suffering very, very badly.”
But is Sweden really suffering very, very badly in comparison to other countries that have imposed severe restrictions? Is it really imperative that they change course and fall in line with what most other countries have done? Or do these calls proceed from a different motive entirely: a fear that Sweden’s comparatively measured approach of dealing with Covid-19 without introducing the most draconian civil restrictions ever seen and without crashing its economy might actually work and in so doing show the response of other countries to have been wildly disproportionate?
This is not something we should leave to a matter of opinion, so let’s instead look at what the data tells us. Below are four charts comparing the UK, which went into lockdown on 23rd March, with Sweden and its far more relaxed approach. All the data on these charts comes from the official reports from both countries up to and including 11th April (here and here). It comes with the caveats that of course this is by no means final and the situation may well change to produce a very different picture in the coming weeks, nor is it possible to know with any certainty whether both countries are counting their cases and deaths in a way that is consistent with one another. Nevertheless, since it is from official data sources, it is the best guide we currently have to what is happening in both countries.
(Note: Charts 1 and 3 compare cases and deaths in absolute terms. Charts 2 and 4 take into account the relative population sizes (UK = 67.9 million; Sweden = 10.10 million) by looking at the number of cases per million people).
Chart 1

Chart 2

Chart 3

Chart 4

(Note: In terms of timelines, Sweden reported its first Covid-cases eight days before the UK (15 on 3rd March, compared with 77 on 11th March in the UK), whilst the UK recorded its first deaths two days before Sweden (10 on 14th March, compared with 4 for Sweden on 16th March)).
Looking at these charts, particularly charts 2 and 4 which are a like-for-like comparison, as at 11th April, I think we can say the following:
- In terms of reported cases, the data shows no evidence that the UK lockdown approach has been any more successful than the Swedish approach. In fact, per million people, Sweden has had fewer cases than the UK.
- In terms of recorded deaths, again there is no evidence so far that the UK lockdown approach has been any more successful than the Swedish approach. In fact, per million people, Sweden has had fewer deaths than the UK.
As I say, the situation may well change as the days and weeks go by, but so far, according to the official data from both countries, the approach taken in the UK of keeping people in their homes and closing down huge swathes of the economy, has not had any more positive effect on reducing Covid-19 cases or deaths than the Swedish approach. Yet it will put millions out of work, it will destroy thousands of businesses, it will lead to a massive deterioration of mental health, it will lead to an increase in suicides, it will lead to old people dying on their own without their carers, and it already has led to an increase of state power on a scale never seen before. There is that!
TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: herdimmunity; lockdown; sweden; uk
To: SeekAndFind
The country most similar to Sweden isn’t the UK nor Denmark which have much higher population densities.
It is Norway 38 people per square mile vs Sweden at 64 vs the UK at 274.
Norway and Sweden have similar rates of obesity,diabetes,hypertension and other comorbidities like percentage living in multigenerational households.
Death rate per 1 million population?
Norway 27
Sweden 119
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posted on
04/15/2020 10:21:57 AM PDT
by
Reaganez
To: SeekAndFind
They should have a few more charts comparing unemployment, business failures, school days lost, etc. and see how they compare.
To: SeekAndFind
Sweden has a Case Fatality Rate over 10%. Either they aren’t testing very much or they are horrible at treating it.
If you don’t test, you don’t have any cases.
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posted on
04/15/2020 10:25:47 AM PDT
by
DannyTN
To: SeekAndFind
Sweden doesn’t need to use the virus as an excuse to impose socialism, because they already have socialism.
5
posted on
04/15/2020 10:29:52 AM PDT
by
Boogieman
To: Reaganez
Norway and Sweden have similar rates of obesity,diabetes,hypertension and other comorbidities like percentage living in multigenerational households. Sweden has a far higher percentage of the population who are immigrants than Norway... 24% vs 15%. They also had cases and deaths before Norway. This is a much better predictor of infection rates.
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posted on
04/15/2020 10:31:07 AM PDT
by
fireman15
To: Reaganez
Death rate per 1 million population?
Norway 27
Sweden 119
No reasonable government would shut down an entire country for the deaths of 92 people. if Norway had one plane crash that killed over 100 people when they shut down the airline industry? Of course not.
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posted on
04/15/2020 10:55:52 AM PDT
by
wildcard_redneck
(If the Trump Administration doesn't prosecute the coup plotters he loses the election in 2020)
To: SeekAndFind
Lockdowns don't work
As far as I can see, lockdowns have never worked anywhere.
In New York City the overwhelming majority of coronavirus infections came AFTER the lockdowns, when most New Yorkers had already been exposed to the virus in the tightly overcrowded subway trains and from going to all these Chinese New Year parades in The Chinatowns because DeBlasio and The NYC Health Commissioner exhorted everybody to go, saying “There is nothing to worry about folks”
To: SeekAndFind
Chart 2 is interesting in that it appears to be a pretty clear illustration that without defensive measures the disease goes through its cycle more rapidly, but otherwise moves in the same predictable fashion. Sweden had a higher rate of infection early on, and then reached that double peak earlier too. Other than that, the lines look quite similar.
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posted on
04/15/2020 11:15:22 AM PDT
by
ArmstedFragg
(So Long Obie)
To: wildcard_redneck
No, but if we are playing the all or nothing game of the media then 119 to 27 is significant.
But you are right, 1500 dead people (based on 12 million swedes) seems like a small cost for keeping the economy going.
To: Sam Gamgee; SeekAndFind; ArmstedFragg; wildcard_redneck; fireman15; DannyTN; Oshkalaboomboom; ...
This seems like a good place to post my
tracking of COVID-19 deaths by country and select US states. For those of you new to this analysis, I standardize each municipality's cumulative COVID-19 fatality count from
GitHub by its population, then multiply the resulting quotient by the US' population of 329MM to put everyone on a common/US scale. I then index each municipality's time-series to Day 1, where their size-adjusted fatality count is right before it breaches 1,000 people. This corrects for what I call the "Golf Problem" where broadcasts of the Masters etc have to show not only each golfer's score, but which hole they're at. I also list the Day 1 date and the population for reference.
Below are the data. Note for the US as nation, that Day 1 is March 25, which means Day 21 is April 14 for that row of data. You can do the math for the other municipalities to find out what Day XX means for them in calendar times; as a general rule, the last actual data point is the freshest date (i.e., Day 23 for Georgia is that state's COVID-19 cumulative population-adjusted fatality count for April 14), but on a Golf timeline it gives each municipality's score as of the "21st hole." The order is alphabetical.
America's rank vs other countries hasn't changed in days. Swedend's adjusted fatality count is 2,839 higher than the US' but they haven't torched their service economy - but if they get a bunch of infections soon then we'll know it was a bad approach.
Special note: I'd accidentally over-adjusted the UK's fatalities previously; they're good now. Please pray for those impacted.
| Country |
Date of Day 1=day priot to hitting 1,000+ population-adjusted deaths |
Population |
Day 17 |
Day 18 |
Day 19 |
Day 20 |
Day 21 |
Day 22 |
Day 23 |
Day 24 |
| San Marino |
3/3/20 |
33,574 |
107,974 |
137,421 |
196,316 |
196,316 |
196,316 |
206,132 |
206,132 |
206,132 |
| New York |
3/20/20 |
19,795,791 |
69,271 |
79,210 |
92,612 |
104,348 |
117,650 |
130,585 |
143,621 |
156,240 |
| Andorra |
3/21/20 |
77,543 |
89,250 |
93,500 |
97,750 |
106,250 |
110,500 |
110,500 |
123,249 |
123,249 |
| New Jersey |
3/23/20 |
8,958,013 |
55,331 |
62,541 |
71,076 |
80,310 |
86,454 |
89,876 |
103,193 |
- |
| Spain |
3/13/20 |
47,100,396 |
47,600 |
53,988 |
59,222 |
65,680 |
72,404 |
78,351 |
83,592 |
88,448 |
| Belgium |
3/19/20 |
11,524,454 |
36,689 |
41,379 |
46,669 |
58,193 |
64,056 |
72,148 |
86,332 |
95,683 |
| West Bank and Gaza |
3/25/20 |
11,700 |
56,334 |
56,334 |
56,334 |
56,334 |
56,334 |
- |
- |
- |
| Michigan |
3/24/20 |
9,922,576 |
35,737 |
42,512 |
46,199 |
49,354 |
53,174 |
58,654 |
- |
- |
| Connecticut |
3/23/20 |
3,590,886 |
30,745 |
34,875 |
41,116 |
45,337 |
50,844 |
55,249 |
61,582 |
- |
| France |
3/18/20 |
67,076,000 |
32,034 |
37,212 |
39,762 |
43,855 |
50,817 |
53,490 |
60,078 |
64,928 |
| Louisiana |
3/20/20 |
4,670,724 |
33,656 |
36,126 |
41,065 |
46,004 |
49,532 |
53,271 |
56,870 |
59,269 |
| Massachusetts |
3/25/20 |
6,794,422 |
29,054 |
33,274 |
36,669 |
40,937 |
46,418 |
- |
- |
- |
| Italy |
3/5/20 |
60,243,406 |
26,395 |
29,956 |
33,244 |
37,308 |
41,045 |
44,939 |
49,967 |
54,830 |
| United Kingdom |
3/20/20 |
66,435,550 |
24,520 |
26,713 |
30,612 |
35,274 |
39,650 |
44,516 |
49,070 |
52,726 |
| Netherlands |
3/17/20 |
17,451,031 |
25,324 |
28,138 |
31,273 |
33,445 |
35,390 |
39,809 |
42,585 |
45,380 |
| Sweden |
3/23/20 |
10,333,456 |
21,910 |
25,290 |
27,746 |
28,288 |
28,671 |
29,309 |
32,945 |
- |
| Switzerland |
3/16/20 |
8,586,550 |
18,730 |
20,572 |
22,683 |
25,561 |
27,442 |
29,361 |
31,510 |
34,351 |
| Ireland |
3/25/20 |
4,921,500 |
19,218 |
21,428 |
22,366 |
24,441 |
27,187 |
- |
- |
- |
| United States |
3/25/20 |
329,556,365 |
18,586 |
20,463 |
22,020 |
23,529 |
25,832 |
- |
- |
- |
| District of Columbia |
3/24/20 |
672,228 |
15,688 |
18,629 |
23,042 |
24,512 |
25,493 |
32,846 |
- |
- |
| Luxembourg |
3/17/20 |
613,894 |
16,105 |
16,642 |
16,642 |
19,326 |
22,010 |
23,620 |
24,694 |
27,915 |
| Colorado |
3/24/20 |
5,456,574 |
13,710 |
15,280 |
16,549 |
17,515 |
18,602 |
19,870 |
- |
- |
| Macedonia |
3/24/20 |
679,600 |
14,548 |
15,518 |
16,488 |
16,488 |
18,427 |
21,337 |
- |
- |
| Portugal |
3/23/20 |
10,276,617 |
12,186 |
13,116 |
13,950 |
15,072 |
16,163 |
17,157 |
18,183 |
- |
| Denmark |
3/22/20 |
5,822,763 |
11,489 |
12,338 |
13,414 |
13,980 |
14,715 |
15,451 |
16,130 |
16,923 |
| Georgia |
3/23/20 |
10,214,860 |
11,937 |
13,292 |
13,712 |
13,937 |
14,131 |
15,454 |
16,680 |
- |
| Germany |
3/25/20 |
83,149,300 |
10,967 |
10,844 |
11,977 |
12,659 |
13,056 |
- |
- |
- |
| Nevada |
3/24/20 |
2,890,845 |
9,348 |
9,804 |
12,654 |
12,882 |
12,996 |
14,820 |
- |
- |
| Austria |
3/23/20 |
8,902,600 |
10,106 |
10,920 |
11,809 |
12,475 |
12,956 |
13,623 |
14,215 |
- |
| Vermont |
3/18/20 |
626,042 |
8,949 |
10,528 |
11,581 |
12,107 |
12,107 |
12,107 |
12,107 |
12,634 |
| Iran |
3/9/20 |
83,331,064 |
8,214 |
8,835 |
9,404 |
9,954 |
10,441 |
10,903 |
11,461 |
12,007 |
| Washington |
3/8/20 |
7,170,351 |
5,653 |
5,975 |
6,940 |
8,135 |
8,779 |
9,514 |
10,157 |
10,387 |
| Iceland |
3/23/20 |
364,260 |
5,428 |
5,428 |
6,333 |
7,238 |
7,238 |
7,238 |
7,238 |
- |
| Cyprus |
3/23/20 |
875,900 |
3,386 |
3,762 |
3,762 |
3,762 |
4,139 |
4,515 |
4,515 |
- |
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posted on
04/15/2020 6:02:16 PM PDT
by
DoodleBob
(Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
To: DoodleBob
UK was late on their lockdown.
Sweden on the other hand has the lowest population density in Europe.
Sweden also has a Case Fatality Rate > 10%. Implying that they are only testing very sick patients, so their cases are understated relative to other countries. It’s either that or they’re really bad about caring for their sick.
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posted on
04/15/2020 6:05:28 PM PDT
by
DannyTN
To: DoodleBob
bro maybe i’m dumb or everyone else is afraid to say it
i don’t know WHAT THE #### your chart is showing :)
13
posted on
04/15/2020 6:16:08 PM PDT
by
dp0622
(Radicals, racists dont point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin to make ends meet)
To: DoodleBob
... can you work NZ into the mix?
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posted on
04/15/2020 6:28:30 PM PDT
by
aMorePerfectUnion
(I'd rather be anecdotally alive than scientifically dead...)
To: dp0622
a lot of numbers...
Basically, my chart shows that the US is right in the middle of the pack of all major countries in terms of COVID-19 fatalities when you adjust for the total population (you'd expect more deaths in American than a nation of 5MM people) and when the virus struck the nation.
If you don't make that adjustment, you can arrive at bad conclusions.
That's the gist of it.
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posted on
04/15/2020 6:31:40 PM PDT
by
DoodleBob
(Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
To: aMorePerfectUnion; USFRIENDINVICTORIA
NZ,
like Canada, is simply not doing its part to be part of the global tragedy. NZ's nine COVID-19 fatalities as of yesterday across 4,974,995 people comes to 596 adjusted fatalities.
Similarly, Australia's 25,665,337 people had 62 fatalities or 796 on an adjusted basis as of April 14.
Maybe if they started counting car accident victims with a flu as a COVID fatality then we'd see some action.
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posted on
04/15/2020 6:39:28 PM PDT
by
DoodleBob
(Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
To: DoodleBob
I see that magically the new way the counts have been adjusted, voila, we will hit 60,000 sooner than later. Will anyone even remember the only reason the numbers are higher is they are now counting people as dead from COVID there were not counting before? Too complex for the stupid media to comprehend.
To: Sam Gamgee
If you go to the GitHub website where the raw data for the JH website are posted, there are LOTS of people who notice this change and are peeved about it.
https://github.com/CSSEGISandData/COVID-19/issues. Indeed:
Perhaps due to confusion about presumed vs. confirmed deaths. What happened is that the CDC issued new guidelines asking states and localities to tabulate presumed covid-19 deaths as well as confirmed deaths. NYC was one of the first localities to separately report presumed and confirmed coronavirus deaths. Some newspapers reported "a new death toll" by combining both reports. Presumably, over time the presumed deaths will be investigated and some of them will be determined to be confirmed deaths. Until then, the previously reported confirmed death tolls remain what they are.
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posted on
04/16/2020 3:52:44 PM PDT
by
DoodleBob
(Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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