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When do we get a reasonable definition of victory over this virus?
April 3, 2020 | Kevin Collins

Posted on 04/03/2020 10:09:04 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

What is the lowest point we can allow our economy to sink before we say, enough and start it back up ourselves? We are at about a 20,000 Dow. Do we wait until it sinks to 15,000? Do we wait until 10,000? In every war we have battled toward a point where we could declare victory. Never did it ever require us to kill every single enemy. Why is it that 13 states can stay open (yes they have less illness; but this is a highly mobile nation regardless of what we are fed by government. We need to be told what the reasonable definition of victory is. Thoughts?


TOPICS: Politics; Science
KEYWORDS: chineseflu; coronavanity; emptyhospitals; overlycautious; pray4patriotleaders; stupidvanity
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How can any endeavor this large be successful without a defined goal for victory?
1 posted on 04/03/2020 10:09:04 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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If the lamestream media and Democrats have anything to say about it they will milk if until the end of summer.

Am I being harsh?

2 posted on 04/03/2020 10:11:11 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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3 posted on 04/03/2020 10:11:15 AM PDT by caww
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When ginning up fear over it no longer serves the political ambitions of the Left.


4 posted on 04/03/2020 10:11:22 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: jmaroneps37

Well, once government starts something it tends to be difficult to stop.


5 posted on 04/03/2020 10:13:24 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's also a highway to hell.)
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To: cloudmountain

The first Tuesday after the first Monday of November.


6 posted on 04/03/2020 10:13:37 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Democrats don't care if we are in soup lines as long as they get to ladle it)
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January 21st of whatever year Trump leaves office


7 posted on 04/03/2020 10:13:43 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Everyone knows Hillary was corrupt, lied, destroyed documents, and influenced witnesses. Rat crime.)
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Then they have a bad surprise in store. “When you’re done with it, it ain’t done with you.”


8 posted on 04/03/2020 10:13:45 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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It’s a fluid situation, and there is not a guidebook or history of similar situations, to guide us as to when this is over. If Dr. Fauci had his way, the country would be shut down for the next year.


9 posted on 04/03/2020 10:14:11 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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The first Tuesday after the first Monday of November.

Your response: simple, pithy, clear and correctomumdo.

10 posted on 04/03/2020 10:17:35 AM PDT by cloudmountain
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It is over and we can go back to our lives when Fauci and Birx deem it so. Seriously. They control the cards, and Trump will not risk being contradicted by them in public. So until they are completely onboard with re-opening, we will stay closed. Period.


11 posted on 04/03/2020 10:17:41 AM PDT by nwrep
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I’m afraid this will never be over.
Some people are already saying all of this have to be repeated this fall.
No updates on how any treatment therapies are coming, no updates on any advancements against this, Just shut it all down and burn it to the ground


12 posted on 04/03/2020 10:18:08 AM PDT by TexasM1A
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On April 30th, they should tell those who are most at risk to stay home another month. They should tell those who are not in a high risk group to go back to work unless they live with someone who is high risk. Obviously those who have had the virus can go back to work as well. They should not wait until there are no deaths and no new cases. That could be a year from now. They need to wait until the first wave passes. The healthcare system should be able to handle subsequent waves. Each wave should be less than 25% the size of the last wave. As all the people in the first wave both dead and alive will not be available to spread the virus in the second wave.


13 posted on 04/03/2020 10:24:59 AM PDT by poinq
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Haven’t you figured this out yet? It’s designed to NEVER end.


14 posted on 04/03/2020 10:27:07 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.)
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One problem with your scenario:

Who is THEY?

15 posted on 04/03/2020 10:28:03 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (And somewhere in the darkness ... the gambler, he broke even.)
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I don’t have a good answer to the question. But I’m pretty sure it has nothing to do with the Dow. For example, if the Dow should shoot back up to 26,000 next week (very unlikely), does that mean we are winning?

And should the Dow drop more (likely), does that mean we are losing?


16 posted on 04/03/2020 10:29:08 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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With Democrats, there will never be a victory. When this subsides, I expect the shutdowns to return to 40 person limits in meetings or at restaurants. Democrats would love to leave such limits in place to destroy many larger churches.


17 posted on 04/03/2020 10:37:08 AM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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So true!


18 posted on 04/03/2020 10:38:42 AM PDT by Guenevere (Press On!)
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Our society is largely based on perception. When the perception is that the virus is under control and/or we have a good treatment that lowers the mortality it will likely devolve into a blame game.

It will be difficult to discern when this “over” is as the media hysteria seems to lead public sentiment just as it does in the stock markets.

I don’t think we know enough at the present time to set any goals and there will likely be new outbreaks after some sort of victory is declared. Look what happened in China - they opened a city back up for a few weeks and now they are shutting it down again. Our media will scream, wail, and gnash their teeth blaming Trump for every death from every new outbreak when he gives the order.

In a sense, this pandemic has been about managing fear as much as the pandemic itself. Towards the back end it will become even more politicized and it will be about message management as the inevitable finger pointing begins.

We are in uncharted waters with little historical reference as a baseline. The scientist will look at the models and base their demands on the worst case scenario. Those worried about the economy will push to restore normalcy. The two competing camps are already forming visibly and this will shape the future perception likely along ideological lines.


19 posted on 04/03/2020 10:39:01 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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If this weren't an election year, you would be hearing nowhere near as much about it, not unlike when Obama had his virus go-round in 2009 and did little about it. But, other DS gambits have failed, so this is the next one. Until we get verifiable numbers, the Dems will continue to drag this out as long as they can.
20 posted on 04/03/2020 10:43:55 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason ("Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither..")
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