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1877: John D. Lee, for the Mountain Meadows Massacre
ExecutedToday.com ^ | March 23, 2009 | Headsman

Posted on 03/23/2020 6:59:00 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat

On this date in 1877, Mormon leader John D. Lee was shot at the site of (and for the crime of instigating) the Mountain Meadows Massacre 20 years before.

As the only person ever prosecuted for this dreadful affair, which saw 120 California-bound settlers slaughtered by a Mormon militia, Lee “was allowed … to carry to his grave Mormondom’s guilt for this horrible and barbaric act.” (Jan Shipps)

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: johndlee; lee; mormon; mormons; utah
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There is a lot of tragedy in our past.
1 posted on 03/23/2020 6:59:00 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
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To: CheshireTheCat

John D. Lee is Sen. Mike Lee’s ancestor.


2 posted on 03/23/2020 7:02:57 PM PDT by Campion (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't they understand?)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Many of the history books say it was a battle versus the Indians.


3 posted on 03/23/2020 7:04:01 PM PDT by Trumpet 1 (US Constitution is my guide.)
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To: CheshireTheCat
"On Sept. 7, 1857, Paiutes and some Mormons dressed as Paiutes first attacked. The fight lasted five days and the Baker-Fancher party began to run out of ammunition, water, and food. By Sept. 11, the Mormons feared that the settlers had realized their identities. Two militiamen, their faces washed clean of paint and plain clothes on their bodies, approached the wagons with a white flag. John D. Lee himself marched with them.

They were a rescue party, Lee told the settlers, here to save them from the vicious Paiutes they claimed were behind the attack. They said that they had negotiated a truce and persuaded the natives to let them escort them to safety in Cedar City.

The Baker-Fancher Party fell for it. The settlers were separated into three groups of men, women, and children. The men were almost immediately shot at point-blank range. The women and children were also met with bullets. The Mormons “decoyed out and destroyed with the exception of the small children” who were “too young to tell tales,” and subsequently left no settlers over the age of seven. These 17 surviving children were doled out amongst locals along with their possessions.

A woman in Cedar City would later recall the sight of those 17 children as they were dragged into town and forced into new homes:

“Two of the children [were] cruelly mangled and the most of them with their parents’ blood still wet upon their clothes, and all of them shrieking with terror and grief and anguish.”

The militia hastily buried the dead. Every man present was sworn never to tell a soul.

https://allthatsinteresting.com/mountain-meadows-massacre

The mormon women went back to the slaughter and stripped everything of value from the bodies and wagons.

4 posted on 03/23/2020 7:07:29 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: CheshireTheCat

None of my family had immigrated until five to ten years after that.


5 posted on 03/23/2020 7:07:45 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
"A few who escaped the initial slaughter were quickly chased down and killed. Two teen-aged girls, Rachel and Ruth Dunlap, managed to clamber down the side of a steep gully and hide among a clump of oak trees for several minutes. They were spotted by a Paiute chief from Parowan, who took them to Lee. Eighteen-year-old Ruth Dunlap reportedly fell to her knees and pleaded, "Spare me, and I will love you all my life!"[10] (Lee denied this). 50 years later, a Mormon woman who was a child at the time of the massacre recalled hearing LDS women in St. George[11] say both girls were raped before they were killed.[12]

All of the Mormon participants in the massacre were then sworn to secrecy.[13] The many dozens of bodies were hastily dragged into gullies and other low lying spots, then lightly covered with surrounding material which was soon blown away by the weather, leaving the remains to be scavenged and scattered by wildlife.[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_and_aftermath_of_the_Mountain_Meadows_massacre


6 posted on 03/23/2020 7:12:27 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: CheshireTheCat

Mormons are Muslims with a haircut.


7 posted on 03/23/2020 7:12:43 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople
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To: Campion

The sins of the father shall not be visited on the son.


8 posted on 03/23/2020 7:25:47 PM PDT by HighSierra5
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To: CheshireTheCat

Many of the decedents of the children that survived the massacre live in NW Arkansas and have a family reunion infrequently. The people that were killed by the Mormons were from NW Arkansas.


9 posted on 03/23/2020 7:28:46 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: MuttTheHoople

I think that’s a bit over the top FRiend. Most of the world’s religions have some ugly incidents in their past. I haven’t seen any LDS flying planes into building lately or engaging in various other types of atrocities. They have evolved. Islam, has not.


10 posted on 03/23/2020 7:31:27 PM PDT by NRx (A man of honor passes his father's civilization to his son without surrendering it to strangers.)
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To: CheshireTheCat
What's remarkable is that there are pictures from that day:

And a lot of people in The Church still think it was misfortunate but understandable considering the persecution they had withstood on their way West from Nauvoo and Independence.

And a lot of us "gentiles" as they refer to us don't.

11 posted on 03/23/2020 7:33:36 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator
And supposedly these are the people who endured the event:


12 posted on 03/23/2020 7:39:57 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: CheshireTheCat

Read all about it here! MASSACRES OF THE MOUNTAINS by Dunn Jr.

https://archive.org/details/massacresmounta01dunngoog/page/n293/mode/2up


13 posted on 03/23/2020 7:53:35 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: vetvetdoug

Most were from the Harrison Arkansas area although Fancher did own 200 acres in Benton County.


14 posted on 03/23/2020 7:56:41 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: NRx

Over the top? Not hardly!

https://www.bible.ca/islam/islamic-mormonism-similarities.htm

https://www.hope-of-israel.org/2ndMuhammad.html

“I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword.’ So shall it eventually be with us — ‘Joseph Smith or the Sword!’ ” [1]

Even Sherlock Holmes got involved in it in A STUDY IN SCARLET which I read years ago.


15 posted on 03/23/2020 8:05:11 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: CheshireTheCat; Colofornian; FastCoyote; colorcountry; Zakeet; P-Marlowe; sevenbak; Utah Girl; ...

Sounds like you need to call out THE FLYING INMANS from years ago!


16 posted on 03/23/2020 8:11:53 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Regulator

Not sure, but this photo looks like refugees from the Minnesota Sioux uprising in the 1860s.


17 posted on 03/23/2020 8:13:17 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Trumpet 1
Many of the history books say it was a battle versus the Indians.

Only the ones that don't care about accuracy.

18 posted on 03/23/2020 8:21:38 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: CheshireTheCat

I have been to the memorial for the massacre. Talk about depressing and sad...


19 posted on 03/23/2020 8:32:45 PM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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To: MuttTheHoople

“Mormons are Muslims with a haircut.”

True. In 1830 John Nelson escorted Brigham Young to Utah as a guide and said that Mr. Young wanted to be the King of a Kingdom. After getting kicked out of ten other states, Mr. Young went to Utah with the goal of clearing out the locals and setting up a Kingdom with his people. The Meadows Massacre was brutal and evil. A group of Innocent people left Utah hoping to escape the slavery of Mormonism but were caught behind a rock. Just as a kitty cat will trap a mouse in the corner of a room in the house and sit there for hours, so too the Mormons trapped the group of Innocents for several days behind a rock and sat there pointing guns for several days. Then all the Innocents were killed. Evil. Wicked, Unethical. Wrong, Demonic.


20 posted on 03/23/2020 8:49:25 PM PDT by Falconspeed
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