Not Funny: Coronavirus Gets Last Laugh In Spain Government and media were ridiculing people and encouraging participation in big gatherings. Now it is a pandemic hotspot.

American Conservative ^ | March 12, 2020 | Itxu Diaz

[C19fan]

As of Wednesday night, Italy is in chaos, as if they were at war. They’ve counted 1,800 new sick people in one day, more than 12,000 total infected and more than 800 dead; they’ve seen food shortages and prison riots with mass escapes and several deaths.

Spain is has experiencing more than 2,000 cases and nearly 50 deaths as of Wednesday, making it the new health concern hotspot in Europe, along with France, where 33 people have already died and more than 1,700 are infected. Even the French minister of culture, Franck Riester, has tested positive for coronavirus. The stock exchanges have collapsed amid a gloomy atmosphere reminiscent of 2008.

[C19fan]

My wife and kids were suppose to go to Spain in a few weeks. They were very skittish about going. Thankfully when Trump announced the travel restriction to Europe we were able to get a full refund of the plane tickers.

[LouieFisk]

They were still going to go, but the it was a refund that changed the plans?

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Maybe a little bit of hype by media and some. Maybe not.

[C19fan]

The plan was to lie and say my wife got sick and get a Dr’s note to cancel the flight and submit a claim to the travel insurance policy we purchased. But when we heard Trump’s announcement we went to the airline’s website and was able to cancel for full refund.

[OpusatFR]

Portugal too. Was scheduled for Portugal and Spain next month, but received a State Department travel advisory this morning about Portugal: no go.

[moovova]

Nancy Pelosi is on CNN right now running her mouth. Not really being Trump-negative...kinda odd.

BUT...she doesn’t look well. Wiping her nose (her nose is red), eyes rheumy-looking...I think she’s got The Virus.

[LouieFisk]

It did work out well for y’all in that case.

[JonPreston]

A week ago one of our members said he was going to the Canary Islands and how he thought this was overblown. He was cheered on by a few other members. Now, given DJTs travel ban, he’s stuck. Oh well, flu!!

[SaxxonWoods]

We’ve got tickets for the Bahamas in late April.

No cases there yet. Fingers crossed.

Waiting for the next update but here are current USA numbers:

Currently Infected Patients: 1,311

In Mild Condition: 1,301 (99%)

Serious or Critical: 10 (1%)

New Deaths: 0

[Black Agnes]

The serious/critical is the number to watch.

Pretty sure we don’t have ICU beds or critical care beds for 1% of the population (or even a tiny fraction thereof).

Goal should be to flatten the infection curve so our critical patients don’t outnumber our ability to care for them properly.

[null and void]

Our President is being excoriated for stopping flights from Europe.

A judge in Hawaii has even ruled against it.

Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

The false positive rate was 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

If a quarantine saves just one child's life, it's worth it.

[Pollard]

If the virus overlaps tick season, we may have Corona with Lyme

[ConservativeMind]

LOL! You are right to ask that.

They were willing to be stupid.

[null and void]

Gee, that’s too bad...

[Travis McGee]

[FROM THE ARTICLE]

As of Wednesday night, Italy is in chaos, as if they were at war. They’ve counted 1,800 new sick people in one day, more than 12,000 total infected and more than 800 dead; they’ve seen food shortages and prison riots with mass escapes and several deaths.

Spain is has experiencing more than 2,000 cases and nearly 50 deaths as of Wednesday, making it the new health concern hotspot in Europe, along with France, where 33 people have already died and more than 1,700 are infected. Even the French minister of culture, Franck Riester, has tested positive for coronavirus. The stock exchanges have collapsed amid a gloomy atmosphere reminiscent of 2008.

This is more than just the common flu.

The evidence in China shows that with drastic measures, it is possible to stop the coronavirus. Evidence in Mediterranean Europe, meanwhile, shows that minimizing the threat is a mistake that could carry catastrophic consequences for both public health and the economy. Donald Trump has an advantage: Europe can be his guinea pig, but he needs to pay attention and learn from its mistakes. He seemed to recognize that when he announced a travel ban from Europe Wednesday night.

I repeat: the coronavirus is not the flu. The problem is not collective hysteria but the absence of precautions and sensible decisions by those in power.

Only a week ago, we Spaniards, oblivious to any drama, peeked out of the corners of our eyes at Italy. They already had 1,717 cases of coronavirus. When the Italians began to take measures, the Germans, Swiss, and French followed in their stead to try to anticipate the virus’s spread. But not the Spanish government. They promoted mass citizen participation in events such as the March 8 feminist demonstrations and insisted that there was no reason for alarm. (No reason? Having a government of socialists and communists is reason enough to live in constant panic.)

For the past week, pro-government Spanish journalists have ridiculed the drastic measures of other countries and chanted that pernicious mantra: “the coronavirus is nothing but a flu.” And so, while Italy, Iran, France, Germany, Switzerland, South Korea, and Japan decreed important bans and urged their citizens to avoid rallies and take extreme precautions, the Spanish government threw protesters into the streets while millions of people maintained their travel plans and social gatherings.

On Sunday, as I watched the packed feminist march in Madrid, I suspected something terrible might happen. The Spanish government led the Spaniards to believe that, for some mysterious reason, perhaps associated with the magical properties of our red wine, we were immune to this virus. And according to official reports, we were, but only until the first minute after the end of the last feminist march. Then they admitted we didn’t have 374 coronavirus cases but in fact more than 1,200, an evolving disaster equal to or worse than the Italian one.

On Monday morning, the Spanish government was still paralyzed, overwhelmed, and so no measures were being taken. My sources at La Moncloa suggested the obvious: that “any restrictive measure would have too great an impact on the economy, tourism and work.” So what? The same applies to being bombed by an enemy during the course of war, and surely we wouldn’t dream of not defending ourselves by any means necessary.

[romanesq]

“BUT...she doesn’t look well.”

Pelosi has been under a major strain. First, they were combatting the frontrunner commie sympathizer Bernie virus.

More recently she’s dealing with the Joe Dementia virus which has been spreading like wildifire in videos across the country.

Poor Nancy.

[dfwgator]

That stupid Women’s Day crap is going to be responsible for a lot of people getting this.

[LouieFisk]

It brought this old routine to mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6j7l4_VlqU

[glorgau]

The plan was to lie and say my wife got sick and get a Dr’s note...

And that in a nutshell is what is going to happen all over this country. We're maybe two weeks away from an Italy/China style lockdown.

[DeFault User]

we may have Corona with Lyme

Oh, the horror!