Posted on 03/11/2020 5:51:39 PM PDT by entropy12
Yes, any preventable death is bad, but I have never seen so much hype over a viral pandemic as this in my 60 years since arriving in United States.
Since it started circulating in the spring of 2009, H1N1 has infected about 100 million Americans, killing about 75,000 and sending 936,000 to the hospital, the CDC estimates. https://www.statnews.com/2019/06/11/h1n1-swine-flu-10-years-later/
It will be a long time before Covid-19 will kill 75,000 Americans, if at all. But I do not recall the hype in 2009 about H1N1. But it was Obama administration in charge, so media had no reason to freakout.
CDC estimates* that, from October 1, 2019, through February 29, 2020, there have been : 20,000 52,000 flu deaths. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
A death is a death whether it is from common Flu or covid-19. Both common flu and covid require the same precautions to minimize chance of infection. While it may be true that covid-19 is more infectious than common flu, if it kills less than 52,000 Americans this season, why does it deserve so much more hype than Flu?
Estimated Number of Deaths for the Four Major Cancers, 2019 606,880 deaths from cancer. https://www.cancer.org/content/dam/cancer-org/research/cancer-facts-and-statistics/annual-cancer-facts-and-figures/2019/estimated-deaths-for-the-four-major-cancers-by-sex-and-age-group-2019.pdf
Many cancers occur due to bad behavior by people. Stastically smokers and 2nd hand smokers get at least 5 times more lung cancer than non-smokers. Obese people get more cancers than people those who are not. So where is the hype about enormous cost of treating cancer patients?
In year 2018, 39,888 people died from traffic accidents. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate
Are any auto accdents preventable? For sure if you do not drive whendrunk or high on ganja or while texting. Why media is not hyping that aspect which major cause of auto accidents?
In year 2018, Drug overdose deaths in US were 67,367 https://www.drugabuse.gov/related-topics/trends-statistics/overdose-death-rates
Another man-made cause of deaths. I doubt if covid will kill 67,367 Americans in one year.
At least 15,292 people were fatally shot in The United States in 2019, excluding suicides. https://www.thetrace.org/2020/01/gun-deaths-2019-increase/
Those people were shot by somebody else, and their deaths are just as final as those caused by covid-19. I can't even imagine the freakout by media if 15,292 die from covid-19 this year.
Well since the Russian collusion didn’t work and impeachment didn’t work .....
Maybe this shoul not be labeled as a vanity.
A more accurate description would be fantasy.
Watch his speech (5 minutes) and then see what you think.
Exactly correct. Ill call coronavirus the Y2K virus
None of your links are clickable.
Show me your links. I posted my links. Without links it is just hot air.
Ridiculous!
I will try to post clickable links.
If felony clinton was president now, I’d be trying to figure out why all my acquaintances were suddenly dying of natural causes.
Sorry but I am to about to watch the President.
If I have time, I will post some links tomorrow.
Not only to make him look bad, but to possibly derail his reelection, which is going to happen anyway as they will fail yet again.
https://www.statnews.com/2019/06/11/h1n1-swine-flu-10-years-later/
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate
In year 2018, Drug overdose deaths in US were 67,367
https://www.drugabuse.gov/related-topics/trends-statistics/overdose-death-rates
https://www.thetrace.org/2020/01/gun-deaths-2019-increase/
This isn’t the flu, and we ARE in trouble:
https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2020/03/welcome-to-party-pal.html
FYI, the blogger is a 25 year veteran nurse, and a big fan of President Trump - is he fear-mongering, or is he being realistic given his knowledge of disease and our health care system? I’m going with door #2 on this one.
FYI, my cousin works for a large hospital in northern NJ, and she just told me that she has attended many meetings over the last few days on the CV. She says that a disaster is coming, very similar to what happened in Italy and for the same reasons - their system got overwhelmed by large numbers of CV victims, and that was compounded by the infection of many docs and nurses. There simply aren’t enough hospital beds, ventilators and ICU beds for all of the victims - many will literally be triaged to death.
This is not the flu. Read the article linked to above - even the CDC has finally woken up (too little, too late, as usual for the incompetent government).
I work with scientific professionals across the country. Not one of them is panicking, but every one of them understands two facts: 1. pandemics occur because of unchecked exponential increase 2. that we are seeing an exponential increase in cases in many places and in particular in the US.
All of them can look at current trends and recognize that in 3 weeks at this rate of increase we will have millions infected and tens of thousands dieing.
And all of them recognize that aggressive action can stop the exponential increase or decrease the rate to a manageable level.
And every single one of them would state that if you don't understand the two facts above and the consequence of those facts should should STFU because you are being irresponsible in the face of a tsunami.
Just compare and contrast with 2009.
I dug up this old thread when H1N1 was going on, and going through it, it looked even much worse than this Coronavirus is.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2278371/posts
The hyperbola is much worse this time around but just as ridiculous.
You can see it when Cuomo in New York uses his calling martial law as an opportunity to take shots at Trump.
They also want to be a led to control things and thus provides a willing populace to give up rights to travel, associate etc...
Hyperbole
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