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Trump is losing the election right before my eyes with his horrible handling of COVID19. Italy went from a few cases to the whole country under lock down in a matter of weeks. There is a thread about the state of the medical system in Lombardy. The system is at a breaking point.
1 posted on 03/10/2020 6:16:38 AM PDT by C19fan
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39 posted on 03/10/2020 6:40:57 AM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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There is little doubt that this virus is here and will take a toll on vulnerable Americans. Vulnerable individuals will contract this virus and some will die until an effective, safe , widely available vaccine is available.

However it should be understood that the vast majority of the American population is not likely to become seriously ill or die. The people most at risk for serious disease are Asians, elderly people with underlying serious medical conditions especially pulmonary disease and the immunosuppressed.

It is important to know the race, age and underlying medical condition of those becoming seriously ill and dying. The region in Italy where the outbreak has occurred and is most affected is densely populated with Chinese immigrants and Asian workers. It also has a disproportional population of elderly people given the low Italian birthrate. It must also be understood that Iran, the other “hotspot” has a huge Asian presence in its population’s genome. The Silk Road and innumerable Chinese caravans transversed Iran and the Mongols conquered Iran. Southeastern Iran is largely Asia.

Its politically incorrect to note that most Caucasians and Africans unless frail elderly or immunosuppressed when “infected” and testing “positive” for this virus are not likely to become seriously ill or die. The CDC and WHO have data based on race but have not released it. Clearly hard data is necessary to alleviate panic ( which of course serves the political interests of many) and to properly allocate resources and concentrate efforts in vulnerable communities.


40 posted on 03/10/2020 6:41:04 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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We will survive the Wuhan Virus.

BUT Tucker's #1 point was that our own "leaders" MADE us completely dependent for medical supplies and drugs (and so much more) on a regime that hates us and wants us dead.

"They need to pay for what they've done. But they probably won't." -- THAT is the most important issue in America right now. Outright treason by those in the Deep State, both parties, for decades.

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."

- Cicero, 52 B.C.

42 posted on 03/10/2020 6:42:16 AM PDT by montag813
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Tucker Carlson occasionally exhibits a single-digit IQ.
This is one of those times. He ought to be ashamed, but likely can't find the humility to do so.
Covid19 is a dangerous virus, and expecting the government to 'fix' it is childish, at best. Maniaclly suicidal at worst.
46 posted on 03/10/2020 6:43:36 AM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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At this time Chairman Xi would like to personally thank all the Rat politicians (and their clueless flacks) who pimped for free trade and open borders.


47 posted on 03/10/2020 6:44:00 AM PDT by JonPreston
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He undermined the President!

He IS part of the media hysteria!

So very tired of Tucker and his ilk.....this isn’t the first time he’s done this


55 posted on 03/10/2020 6:49:37 AM PDT by Guenevere (Press On!)
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Your wasting your breath on the Trump bots who will happily follow their God off the political cliff. South Korea has shown through massive testing and effective quarantining you can keep the CFR under 1%. If you take the Italian approach of reaction you get a CFR of 5%. If this virus detonates over here no amount of bluster or tweets will be of comfort when the news footage is of hospitals overwhelmed. Trump better wake up quick before it’s to late.


62 posted on 03/10/2020 6:56:57 AM PDT by soupbone1
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Trump is losing the election right before my eyes with his horrible handling of COVID19

You're kidding.

63 posted on 03/10/2020 6:59:30 AM PDT by kidd
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Trump is losing the election right before my eyes with his horrible handling of COVID19.
Wishful thinking.

Tucker is just trying to keep his cushy job by pleasing his puppet masters. AKA Paul Ryan

64 posted on 03/10/2020 6:59:49 AM PDT by lewislynn (STOP SUPPORTING CHINA AND ANTI-AMERICAN GLOBALISTS! DO IT NOW!)
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Go ahead and vote for Joe or Bernie.

I’m sure they’ll take care of you.


67 posted on 03/10/2020 7:02:52 AM PDT by moovova
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You know you can catch Wuhan Virus from your keyboard, right? I advise you shut down your computer, stay glued to NBC, ABC, and CBS and do whatever they tell you to do.


74 posted on 03/10/2020 7:10:03 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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It is not fearmongering to look at this and say it is failing. Likely the US should have closed the borders and set up mandatory quarantine sooner but now that has essentially passed. The virus is now loose in the US. Maybe it will be business-as-usually and no big deal for most younger and healthy Americans, but if it ravages our older population--they say 60+ are at risk, and it cleans out nursing homes and all, that is devastating. The lack of testing, aggressive testing and quarantine, is on Trump since he has taken lead. I do not understand how folks can be claiming millions of test kits available yet only a couple thousand tested and, more importantly, repeated reports of no tests available at all. This is, pardon me, a repeat in recent years of talk and no action. But this time, saying kits are available, yet anticipated recipients say they are not, is on public display.

We cannot and most of us likely should not stop working, stay at home, and all, but there needs to be more transparency and honesty in all of this. It should be sobering to everyone to understand the scope of challenge: (1) China locked down cities, bulldozed roads, (2) Israel has quarantine for everyone entering country, (3) Italy is under quarantine, etc. This is not typical flu and should not be dismissed as such. Every time Trump says it is, the reports suggest otherwise, and Trump looks bad. Just saying because it needs to be said. He keeps painting a rosey picture, his staff offer more sobering picture. I don't like that disconnect and I think it will get worse if not stopped. Do we really want to risk a Biden or Sanders getting elected?

75 posted on 03/10/2020 7:10:17 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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For what its worth, wife and daughter are both in the medical field. The doctors they work with agree that this virus is being hyped by the media. Wearing masks at the doctors office where my wife works is optional. The also have a large supply of masks on hand.


82 posted on 03/10/2020 7:15:05 AM PDT by 4yearlurker ("Professing themselves to be wise,they became fools.."Rom. I : 25)
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Trump is losing the election right before my eyes...

Oh please. By summertime it will be on to some other issue. You people need to take a break from this hysteria.


88 posted on 03/10/2020 7:20:19 AM PDT by McGruff
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Speaking of hard truth.

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

So last year 37,000 Americans died from the common Flu. It averages between 27,000 and 70,000 per year. Nothing is shut down, life & the economy go on. At this moment there are 546 confirmed cases of CoronaVirus, with 22 deaths. Think about that!

10:47 AM · Mar 9, 2020


91 posted on 03/10/2020 7:21:31 AM PDT by McGruff
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Sorry, Tucker Carlson has just proven that he is what I always thought he was;

A PUTZ.

I never have gotten onto the Carlson Train, because I remember him from bygone days...in the heat of battle, he always takes the wrong side.


95 posted on 03/10/2020 7:25:35 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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Oh brother. Conflate much?

All Tucker is saying the virus is all the motivation we SHOULD need to move critical manufacturing back home.


97 posted on 03/10/2020 7:27:39 AM PDT by moehoward
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Tucker had an excellent show, last night.

Whoever dismisses what was said, on last night’s program, does so at their own/their family’s own peril.

Dr Siegel was on, immediately following the very honest and to the point opening segment, and confirmed much of what Tucker discussed.

Don your flame suit, as many here are suffering from severe normalcy bias.

Even the CDC has suggested that people over 60 (of which I’d imagine maybe half of FReepers are??) stock up on a few months of foods/meds, etc.

But, hey, it’s just a bad flu.


98 posted on 03/10/2020 7:28:24 AM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.cuase)
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Tucker Carlson - please wake me up when large numbers of healthy adults start dying.

By the way, multiple countries have reported that children appear to have the highest resistance to this virus.


113 posted on 03/10/2020 7:47:51 AM PDT by zeestephen
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I am SOOOO SICK - of the Chicken Littles who swallow the media line hook, line and sinker! Just what in the HELL do you think Trump is supposed to do?

What CAN be done IS being done. I’m tired of seeing Freepers act like spineless, brainless, Orange Man Bad Candy Assed Media-Whipped pussies!


117 posted on 03/10/2020 7:54:08 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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