Posted on 02/01/2020 11:31:57 AM PST by Jack Black
So, I am thinking about the upcoming primaries, and what the most strategically effective way to approach them is.
I live and vote in Washington State, which in recent years has had our long established voting procedures radically altered by Team Donkey, the progressives and the Washington Grange (acting as useful idiots for the Democrats)
We've gone to a "Jungle Primary" for all state and national races, except the Presidential race. I know many other states are being (or have been) pushed in this direction. The Democrat goal is to have general elections that feature only two candidates, both Democrats. This isn't merely a weird speculation, the 2018 California race for the U.S. Senate had only two names on the general election ballot: Diane Feinstein, Democrat and State Senator Kevin de León, also a Democrat.
This is what they aim to do all over, with these new Jungle Primary laws.
The Presidential Nomination contests are a bit more complicated. The legislature, and even Citizen Initiatives, can not simply dictate policy to the Replublican and Democratic parties (at both the National and Washington State level) -- so instead they made smaller changes.
But the impetus, to tear down party power and make "everything open to everyone" is the same.
In Washington we will get both a Dem and GOP primary ballot and can vote either, regardless of party registration (which has become pretty meaningless, because of jungle primaries).
So the question for Freepers is: should I (and others in this position, which is millions of Trump supporters) cross over and vote in the Dem primary?
In thinking about this I have made these judgements:
Given all of the above I feel that it makes sense for me to use my vote to help Trump as much as possible in the Primary phase, and that appears to be voting in the Democratic primary.
My strategy is to vote for which ever candidates seems mostly likely to force a brokered convention, which I feel will do the most harm to Democratic unity.
A Democratic convention which opens with no candidate having enough delegates to ensure a first round majority will quickly devolve into a spectacular food fight.
Imagine Bernie Bros. losing on the second ballot, when the "Super Delegates" are allowed to cast their votes for the first time. It will be the second convention in a row where Bernie loses because the party big-wigs did him in!
The DNC rules give delegates to any candidate who scores over 15% in a primary. My strategy will be to vote for the third place candidate who is going to break that threshold. The more people winning delegates the better the chances of a brokered convention!
An alternate strategy might be to pick the Dem who I sincerely think would be the least-horrible should they end up in the job. But, they are all very horrible, so I find that criteria hard to figure out. If I was able to see one who is "less bad" that might be the most patriotic thing to do.
The next President is going to be either of Trump or the Democratic nominee. What a horrible thought, given Biden, Bernie and Warren are the three front runners, and #4 is probably the wretched gun-banner Bloomberg.
Guys like Yang, an amusing buffoon, are way under the 5% theshold, voting for him likely has no effect on the contest under the current rules.
It’s easy in Texas, we just declare which party when we show up at the polling station (but that does get recorded and is available to others - who you actually vote for, is not available, or shouldn’t be, LOL).
Anyway, I was planning to vote for Marianne Williamson in the Dem primary because I figured if her decisions as president were made by Crystal Gazing, she’d get them half-right, whereas the entire rest of the field will get everything wrong.
Yes!! SC is open primary. GOP cancelled theirs. Bless their hearts. So 2 voting for Crazy Bernie here. Lol
But what do you think of eight years of Bush?
Remember when Metzenbum retired from the US Senate and hand picked his successor (Hilton?). I had a DoD civilian ask me if there was a way to get Hilton off the ballot. I told him he could vote against him twice. Once in the Democrat primary and once in the General election. He did. Then he started getting all this Democrat mail.
WELL now that there has been Trump makes Bush seem REALLY AWFUL, I look back at Bush now and think he was the WORST perhaps a little better than Romney but not much better!!! Got us into a NEVER ENDING presence in the Middle East on a complete LIE I also blame the CIA for that right now I have no use for ANY Bushes or the CIA ALL are DEEP STATE!!!
Good idea, Jack.
I live in King County.
I’m thinking about voting for “Mayor Pete” instead of Bernie.
American Blacks are deeply prejudiced against gay people, and, as expected, Mayor Pete is polling very badly with Black voters.
You mentioned that the purpose of “Jungle Primaries” is to get two Democrats in every election.
It’s already progressed beyond that in my Congressional District. In 2018, I had the choice between my incumbent Democrat Congressman and a member of the Socialist Party. The Socialist got 30% of the vote, which is more than the Republican got in 2016!
Republicans should be for every openly Trump supporting candidate for every federal,state and local office. Trump will win the general election. The important part is to build a base of support under him so we can get things done.
Feel the Bern.
No question.
Destroy the Rats. Either President Trump does in November or the Bolsheviks go after the Mensheviks.
Win-win.
I am considering voting in the Bolshekrat primary this year. I am thinking of writing in Hitlery. I am open to writing in some other candidate.
I predict it will be rigged for a Biden win. Watch closely for who he picks (or is assigned) for a running mate. 3 seconds after the swearing in, a medical report of dementia will surface and the Wookie or - shudder - Cankles becomes President.
Vote for Bernie. He’ll be aced out for the above reason at the convention and his supporters will be livid. He might go thrid party, even.
That’s your Chaos.
I have always been convinced that operation chaos is why Obama was elected.
I’m a no on that. I think it’s important to uphold our President, especially in D states. This election may be quite different. Walk away is real. Lots of Ds now support PDJT. Stand in support for them. Send a message that it’s ok to support Trump. The D’s support for Trump is scaring the heck out of the DNC ptb. Just mho.
We are going to make the DNC feel the Bern here in SC!
This screwed up poll is just the DNC's way of distracting everyone from the fact that they're blocking the Sanders nomination. Fake polls are the DNC's and their media shills' bread and butter.
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