Posted on 02/01/2020 11:31:57 AM PST by Jack Black
So, I am thinking about the upcoming primaries, and what the most strategically effective way to approach them is.
I live and vote in Washington State, which in recent years has had our long established voting procedures radically altered by Team Donkey, the progressives and the Washington Grange (acting as useful idiots for the Democrats)
We've gone to a "Jungle Primary" for all state and national races, except the Presidential race. I know many other states are being (or have been) pushed in this direction. The Democrat goal is to have general elections that feature only two candidates, both Democrats. This isn't merely a weird speculation, the 2018 California race for the U.S. Senate had only two names on the general election ballot: Diane Feinstein, Democrat and State Senator Kevin de León, also a Democrat.
This is what they aim to do all over, with these new Jungle Primary laws.
The Presidential Nomination contests are a bit more complicated. The legislature, and even Citizen Initiatives, can not simply dictate policy to the Replublican and Democratic parties (at both the National and Washington State level) -- so instead they made smaller changes.
But the impetus, to tear down party power and make "everything open to everyone" is the same.
In Washington we will get both a Dem and GOP primary ballot and can vote either, regardless of party registration (which has become pretty meaningless, because of jungle primaries).
So the question for Freepers is: should I (and others in this position, which is millions of Trump supporters) cross over and vote in the Dem primary?
In thinking about this I have made these judgements:
Given all of the above I feel that it makes sense for me to use my vote to help Trump as much as possible in the Primary phase, and that appears to be voting in the Democratic primary.
My strategy is to vote for which ever candidates seems mostly likely to force a brokered convention, which I feel will do the most harm to Democratic unity.
A Democratic convention which opens with no candidate having enough delegates to ensure a first round majority will quickly devolve into a spectacular food fight.
Imagine Bernie Bros. losing on the second ballot, when the "Super Delegates" are allowed to cast their votes for the first time. It will be the second convention in a row where Bernie loses because the party big-wigs did him in!
The DNC rules give delegates to any candidate who scores over 15% in a primary. My strategy will be to vote for the third place candidate who is going to break that threshold. The more people winning delegates the better the chances of a brokered convention!
An alternate strategy might be to pick the Dem who I sincerely think would be the least-horrible should they end up in the job. But, they are all very horrible, so I find that criteria hard to figure out. If I was able to see one who is "less bad" that might be the most patriotic thing to do.
The next President is going to be either of Trump or the Democratic nominee. What a horrible thought, given Biden, Bernie and Warren are the three front runners, and #4 is probably the wretched gun-banner Bloomberg.
Guys like Yang, an amusing buffoon, are way under the 5% theshold, voting for him likely has no effect on the contest under the current rules.
At this point I am not encouraging anyone else to do this, but merely evaluating the possibility.
I thought I'd see what other Freepers think about my reasoning, and what they are planning on doing if they are in a similar situation.
Here in Illinois we will. It’s 2 for Crazy Bernie.
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I know it’s all in fun, but just the idea of asking for a Democrat ballot in a primary gives me convulsions.
Bernie.
My dad and I voted for Ted Kennedy in the Arizona Dem primary back in 1980 because he hadn’t won anything. Carter was hiding in the White House because of the hostage situation, wrapping himself in the flag.
Kennedy won and it went to the convention. We were original Reagan Democrats. I re-registered in 1982.
It might be time for another Operation Chaos. However, none of the leading candidates—Pocahontas, Comrade Bernie, Sir Gaffe-Alot, the Boy Mayor and so on—pose a threat to President Trump.
Coming into Seattle on I-5 from the north every day, I see the Yang banners on the bridge by UW. Why not vote Bernie in the primaries? We WANT to have the capitalist vs communist vote this time, as the down ballot voting will remove Pelosi and her party completely.
Granted, King/Pierce/Snohomish would vote for Stalin if they could.
We re thinking about doing this.
In California, we need to re register as Dems and maybe independents to cross over the fetid river to vote as a dem. in the upcoming primary.
I might just stay there to get all of their mail and cost them a lot of mail costs for ever.
Did demRAT’s vote in the 2016 primaries for President Trump because they were sure he would lose?
Do a walk in vote and vote Democrat. Then, do a mail in fro your Republican choice. Illegal? Who cares? There is no rule of law.
Don’t go for least horrible. Go for most toxic to sane people. That would be Bernie.
“Granted, King/Pierce/Snohomish would vote for Stalin if they could.”
You could probably write in Stalin.
I had tired of Bush1 and I wrote in Mickey Mouse. So did several other voters.
I’ve been suggesting this myself lately. Not only does it seem to be an effective tactic - it sure sets up one heck of a show.
I couldn’t soil myself and identify as a Dem for for the day, which is needed here in Iowa to vote in a caucus.
I would truly rather eat dog excrement.
“I know it’s all in fun, but just the idea of asking for a Democrat ballot in a primary gives me convulsions”.
I know what you mean but we all need to toughen up.
Wimps get their butts kicked.....or worse.
‘I plan to vote for Joe Biden the Dems deserve old Joe. That is the best gift I can give Trump.’
Maybe as Dems, we might be able to vote more than once.
My Dead parents would love to vote for Bernie.
If and when they do go they should be armed with this knowledge;
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I’m registered as an independent in NH, I plan to vote Bernie.
I know a couple of Democrats who are afraid Bernie may win, he scares them. Hearing that is what made up my mind.
And, as an added bonus, if Bernie wins the nomination we’ll have a very entertaining election season.
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