Posted on 11/25/2019 9:57:51 AM PST by Red Badger
How badly have the impeachment proceedings gone for the Democrats?
Well, it would be hard to measure and polls are indicating it didnt convince anyone.
But one good indication might be after all this, after everything Democrats have done, there are now rumblings that Democrats may not try to officially impeach President Donald Trump.
From Daily Wire:
Top Republicans and even some Democrats and members of the media now believe Democrats may pull back on officially impeaching the president, particularly as polls havent borne out a clear advantage for Democratic candidates.
After two weeks of impeachment hearings, which yielded little in the way of evidence that the president most definitely offered Ukraine a quid pro quo agreement trading an increase in foreign aid for an investigation into corruption involving former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is left with a choice: call off the impeachment and look weak or keep going and risk failure at the ballot box.
Multiple polls taken last week reveal that the impeachment hearings are having their most marked effect on independents, who are supporting the impeachment in ever-declining numbers, leaving moderate Democrats at risk of losing their seats and Democratic presidential contenders at a loss going into 2020.
The Hill reports Sunday that public opposition to impeachment has some Republicans voicing skepticism that Speaker Nancy Pelosi will go through with a vote on impeachment.
While Trump said he welcomed a trial, even he seemed to doubt that he would face one, saying it would hard for the House to impeach, when they have absolutely nothing.
Its pretty hard to impeach without one witness who can actually testify that Trump told him/her to condition aid on investigations. Plus all the witnesses who said it never happened.
But polls show voters arent enthusiastic about impeachment, and a subsequent multi-state media push from Republicans ripping vulnerable Democrats for supporting Pelosis crusade has those same moderate Democrats reportedly begging the Speaker to halt the process.
But now that Pelosi has gone this far, shes put herself in a box. If she backs out and does nothing, her far left base will eat her alive. If she continues on this course and goes to a vote with nothing, they face getting punished severely at the ballot box. And then a Senate trial in which they call Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, the whistleblower and Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) could open up a whole can of worms Democrats didnt originally count on, going into the election.
Heres Foxs John Roberts suggesting that they may be considering the option of censure as an out to their dilemma.
You need to read the tweet. Jackson was CENSURED. I was talking about chatter on Capitol Hill that rather than impeach Trump, there may be a move to CENSURE him. Then you can come back and apologize. https://t.co/ttiH9jd9on
John Roberts (@johnrobertsFox) November 22, 2019
Officially, however, the Hill says Democrats are still saying theyre proceeding apace.
The hearings were nearly flawless and extremely damning for the president, one Democrat aide told the Hill. While no decision has been made to proceed with impeachment, the key facts are uncontested and not proceeding at this stage will be called a total exoneration by the president.
Everyone told them, they went for it anyway, because of the base.
Hopefully, it costs them big time at the ballot box.
Never mind!
All poll driven.
The Dem base would revolt wholesale. They’ve got no choice but to impeach on a party line vote(give or take a handful), and the Senate has no choice but to acquit on a party line vote (give or take 1 or 2).
Keep thinking that.
I’ve noticed the media is very quiet on anything to do with impeachment. Probably wait for further commands from Central Planning.
They might drop the charges and see it as a win/win.
They can still constantly refer to it through the whole campaign cycle, saying it is a shame they didn’t have enough votes even though they had ‘proof’.
(D) stands for DE-LUSIONAL.........................
They’re gonna look pretty foolish if they don’t proceede.
The Dem Base is revolting!
Yes, they stink on ice!......................
You have to wonder what’s going on in Schiff’s mind over this.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe a 2/3 super-majority vote is required to impeach. I don’t believe the House has the votes.
No, it’s 2/3 needed in the senate to remove from office. House just needs a majority.
They have to have an ‘official’ vote first, to open an official inquiry, which they have not actually had................
While an impeachment vote or censure are the two options under discussion, there is another option that would be a classic DC swamp maneuver.
Wait for it.....
Stall....
“Our investigation is ongoing and we want to make the effort to persuade our colleagues in the Senate to vote for conviction......”
Stall right through the election—which is only one year away...
Don’t be shocked if they choose that option.
That’s in the Senate.
All the House needs is a majority................
Just so I understand the situation.
If Joe Biden had someone Murdered overseas when he was Vice President to protect his Son, he couldn’t be Investigated because he is running for POTUS?
The far left makes a lot of noise, but I’m not so sure that faction runs so deep in the democrat party. In other words, I’m not sure there are that many.
Pelosi can alienate the far left by squelching the impeachment effort, or she can alienate the silent majority of democrats who lean left, but are not crazy left.
I no longer think Trump will be impeached.
What the heck were they watching? Flawless? Every single witness said no bribery, no extortion, and no illegal quid pro quo. The witnesses can also scream “I am nonpartisan” all they want but theses were all democrats (Not sure on Sondland). Disgruntled employees, Soros hacks and even some question of their loyalty to the U.S. over Ukraine. Still they found nothing wrong except their own wacko perceptions.
Or stick driven. Trump probably has dirt on Pelosi and son’s connections with drug cartels and China.
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