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Navy Brass at the Pentagon is Openly Defying the President
DB Daily Update ^ | David Blackmon

Posted on 11/24/2019 4:58:43 AM PST by EyesOfTX

There only one solution to this, and that his the firings of these men. – The New York Times reported on Saturday that both the Secretary of the Navy, Richard Spencer, and the Admiral serving as Commander of the Navy Seals, Collin Green, are in open defiance of their Commander-in-Chief, whose name is Donald J. Trump. If the story is true – which, of course, is always a pure crap shoot when it comes from the news fakers at the New York Times – then there really is only one possible proper outcome here, and that is for both men to be fired as soon as possible.

According to the Times report:

The secretary of the Navy and the admiral who leads the SEALs have threatened to resign or be fired if plans to expel a commando from the elite unit in a war crimes case are halted by President Trump, administration officials said Saturday.

The Navy is proceeding with the disciplinary plans against the commando, Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher, who counts Mr. Trump as one of his most vocal supporters. After reversing a demotion in recent days, the president suggested on Thursday that he would intervene again in the case, saying that the sailor should remain in the unit.

The threats by the Navy secretary, Richard V. Spencer, and the commander, Rear Adm. Collin Green, are a rare instance of pushback against Mr. Trump from members of the Defense Department. Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper and Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, scrambled to come up with a face-saving compromise this past week in the hope that Mr. Trump could be persuaded to change his mind.

A “face-saving compromise,” huh? That’s what the top command at the Pentagon is all about now – saving face when their plans to railroad a man whose 1-rank demotion had been recently restored by their President?

Gallagher, for those not familiar with his case, had been accused of committing war crimes while serving in Iraq, and put through a long and very costly court-martial. The jury ultimately acquitted him of the alleged crimes, but cited him for – I kid you not – posing for a photo with the body of a dead terrorist fighter, and issued a demotion as punishment.

After the President restored his rank, the Navy brass announced early this past week that they were convening a review board to evaluate Gallagher’s fitness for remaining in the Seals. The President tweeted in response to that news:

“The Navy will NOT be taking away warfighter and Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher’s Trident pin. This case was handled very badly from the beginning. Get back to work!”

Based on leaks coming from disloyal jackasses at the Pentagon, the toadies at the Times characterize the Navy’s response to that tweet as follows:

One argument that officials said may be relied on is the assumption that a tweet does not constitute a formal presidential order. Mr. Esper and General Milley conveyed to the president that if he followed up that tweet with a direct order, there would be huge consequences: Mr. Trump would lose Mr. Spencer and Admiral Green, further infuriate his top military leadership and do untold damage to decades of military justice doctrine, according to administration officials.

Oh, so, by exercising his clear Constitutional authority to intervene in this ridiculous persecution of a Navy Seal by the Navy brass, the Commander-in-Chief would “infuriate his top military leadership” and “do untold damage to decades of military justice doctrine,” eh? What about when the leadership engages in open defiance of their chain of command because it is angry? Wouldn’t that be doing untold damage to the system?

That part about infuriating the military leadership, given that it no doubt comes from someone in that military leadership, sure sounds like an open threat, doesn’t it? Since when do the leaders in our military get to openly threaten the Commander-in-Chief?

If – and again, it is a big “IF” considering the corrupt source – this story is true, then it becomes just one more reason to be very concerned about the loyalties of the current leadership at the Pentagon. When added to the refusal by military leaders to properly deal with Alexander Vindman and his leaking activities at the National Security Council, it paints a very disturbing picture.

Appearing at a public event late Saturday, Secretary Spencer denied having threatened to resign, but not the other aspects of this very disturbing story.

Here’s a link to that video:

Spencer also noted that “I work at the pleasure of the President.” He sure doesn’t act like he believes that to be true. Perhaps the President should exercise his pleasure.

That is all.

[Edit: As I was compiling this piece, President Trump issued the tweet below.]

Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump Navy Seal Eddie Gallagher will be on @foxandfriends this morning at 7:30 A.M. Have no fear, all will end well for everyone!

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Humor; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: collingreen; edwardgallagher; fakenews; gallagher; mediabias; navy; trump; trumpwinsagain
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1 posted on 11/24/2019 4:58:43 AM PST by EyesOfTX
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To: EyesOfTX

The admiral should quit and be an Msnbc consultant. That’s basically what he is anyway. Oh,and also a traitor.


2 posted on 11/24/2019 5:04:30 AM PST by HighSierra5
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To: EyesOfTX

I prefer those two clowns be brought up on charges, rather than being fired.


3 posted on 11/24/2019 5:06:45 AM PST by BobL (I drive a pickup truck to work because it makes me feel like a man.)
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To: EyesOfTX

Most flag rank is a political position.

Trump is not playing by the rules, and the palace princes are angry.

Expect high ranking military officers to “leak” that the Armed Forces are exploring a coup against Trump.

I have worked with to many veterans. The military is not going to be standing in the way of the elite.


4 posted on 11/24/2019 5:07:35 AM PST by redgolum (If this culture today is civilization, I will be the barbarian.)
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To: HighSierra5

Obama didn’t wince when he fired 26 Flag Officers. Most if not all were good men.


5 posted on 11/24/2019 5:07:42 AM PST by mosaicwolf
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To: EyesOfTX

Baraq Soetoro had no problem firing belligerent officers. Why should President Trump?


6 posted on 11/24/2019 5:07:56 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would be have noandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: EyesOfTX
Fire the traitors then hang the bastards.

Time to start setting some examples

7 posted on 11/24/2019 5:09:36 AM PST by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT!)
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To: EyesOfTX

“Spencer also noted that “I work at the pleasure of the President.” He sure doesn’t act like he believes that to be true. Perhaps the President should exercise his pleasure”

With a fat retirement, primo education and other benefits... all on the taxpayer’s dime for his service. And Spencer is an arrogant horses ass to boot. It is very easy to spend other peoples money...

I wouldn’t let him off the hook, I’d keep him working and keep his feet to the fire to produce and if he screws up again by allowing a case like this get as far as it did and as FUBAR as it was... let the jerk go.

The enlisted corp doesn’t deserve his brand of backstabbing leadership.


8 posted on 11/24/2019 5:09:49 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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in re: Post #6

Baraq Soetoro had no problem firing officers he CONSIDERED belligerent.

There. Fixed it.

9 posted on 11/24/2019 5:10:46 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would be have noandards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: HighSierra5

Agree. During the Korean War Truman faced an openly disrespectful, contemptuous General by the name of Douglas McArthur. Even though McArthur was very popular at the time Truman replaced him. There’s a reason that the US military is under civilian rule. It’s critical that it remain so.


10 posted on 11/24/2019 5:11:55 AM PST by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: EyesOfTX; All
This is serious business. While the services, especially the Navy, have indirectly opposed presidential direction a few times in the past directly articulated defiance is rare. MacArthur was sacked for continuing to communicate directly with members of Congress after the JCS had specifically ordered him to route further communications through them. The commander of the USN base at Pensacola refused direction to expedite the arrival of about half a battalion of regular army infantry in early 1861. Lincoln wanted the yard secured as Ft Pickens already had been as part of maneuvering to get the Confederate forces to fire the first shot. The yard commander was an elderly, superannuated and semi-senile officer controlled by a trio of pro=secessionist navy officers. That is about the last time something akin to this has happened. The President is facing a collision with the globalist cadre of the US armed forces. One only hopes no major outbreak of hostilities may happen before this is settled. I don't think Soroa and Co. would balk at such a thing. An unexpected, undeclared attack by Iran or whoever would be advantageous to the rats and their media whores.
11 posted on 11/24/2019 5:23:16 AM PST by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: snoringbear

Remove these jackasses yesterday.


12 posted on 11/24/2019 5:25:47 AM PST by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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To: EyesOfTX

These guys are hold overs from the a##clown and Bush, GET RID OF THEM


13 posted on 11/24/2019 5:26:29 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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To: EyesOfTX

Fire both Spencer and Green ASAP.


14 posted on 11/24/2019 5:27:09 AM PST by tennmountainman (The Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: tennmountainman

The whole story is total BS made up by the media.


15 posted on 11/24/2019 5:29:37 AM PST by SanchoP (Yippy,the next generation search engine.)
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To: EyesOfTX

It has long been noticed that when wars first begin, the top brass are and have been bureaucrats — not worth a damn at real warfare. After enough brave young men have been wasted, some real wartime officers replace those bureaucrats, hopefully sooner rather than later.

At the present time it doesn’t surprise me that the upper echelons of our military seem to be crawling with bureaucrats. In case no one has noticed, bureaucrats almost universally despise DJT. Screw ‘em.


16 posted on 11/24/2019 5:36:28 AM PST by Migraine
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To: EyesOfTX

Mr President, It is your DUTY to bring these mutinous Officers to Justice. You, Sir, are the Commander in Chief. Put the order on paper and send it down the CoC. If I were to openly defy my superiors I would be out of work with no severance in a heartbeat


17 posted on 11/24/2019 5:38:09 AM PST by halfright (Deplorable in Florida...You can give peace a chance.... I'll cover you.)
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To: EyesOfTX

Deep State people are everywhere, including the military.


18 posted on 11/24/2019 5:38:48 AM PST by WWG1WWA ("Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity." - Marcus Aurelius)
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To: EyesOfTX

Now we see that a small portion of the military brass is part of the Deep State.
Now it is very much like “Seven Days in May”


19 posted on 11/24/2019 5:39:45 AM PST by Zathras
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To: EyesOfTX
Part of the problem might be that Trump was never in the military, and he has a holdover of respect for flag rank.

Once he realizes that admirals leave skid marks in their skivvies, and that Obama's O-5 and above thugs are still screwing things up, Mr. Trump will do the necessary.

20 posted on 11/24/2019 5:40:44 AM PST by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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