Posted on 11/12/2019 4:28:36 AM PST by EyesOfTX
When Nikki Haley speaks, people listen. When people start surveying the GOP landscape post-Trump, whether that comes in January after being removed from the the presidency by the Senate (which is not likely to happen), in January 2021 after a loss in the 2020 election (also not in the cards) or in January 2025 following the completion of his second term in office (bingo!), the survey inevitably lands to the name of Nikki Haley as one of his most likely successors.
Other names also arise, of course: Names like Mike Pence and Mike Pompeo and Ted Cruz, and the less obvious names like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis and Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan and even Texas Congressman Dan Crenshaw. Lindsey Graham, with his thrice-weekly appearances on one Fox News evening program or another, is obviously angling for another run at the gig, as are Rand Paul and even Kanye West. But inevitably, the name of Nikki Haley always comes up.
She is, after all, a former successful governor of South Carolina, and a person who, after not really being on board with the Trump Train during the 2016 campaign, created a very high profile for herself as Trumps very loyal, very aggressive and very outspoken UN Ambassador. Although her record as Governor was decidedly mixed from a conservative perspective, perhaps more than any of Trumps cabinet-level officials, Haley has stood out as the most aggressive advocate for his international policies.
Thus it is that anything she has to say about the goings-on inside White House during her two-year tenure is given a lot of weight by most Trump supporters. In a Sunday interview with Kelly ODonnell of CBS, Haley basically accused both then-Chief of Staff John Kelly and then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson of rank insubordination, even though she said they claimed that was not their intent.
Heres the key outtake:
Haley recounts a closed-door encounter with then-White House Chief of Staff John Kelly and then-Secretary of State Rex Tillerson: Kelly and Tillerson confided in me that when they resisted the president, they werent being insubordinate, they were trying to save the country Tillerson went on to tell me the reason he resisted the presidents decisions was because, if he didnt, people would die. This was how high the stakes were, he and Kelly told me. We are doing the best we can do to save the country, they said. We need you to work with us and help us do it. This went on for over an hour.
ODonnell asked, You memorialized that conversation? It definitely happened?
It absolutely happened, said Haley. And instead of saying that to me, they shouldve been saying that to the president, not asking me to join them on their sidebar plan. It shouldve been, Go tell the president what your differences are, and quit if you dont like what hes doing. But to undermine a president is really a very dangerous thing. And it goes against the Constitution, and it goes against what the American people want. And it was offensive.
[We asked them to respond. John Kelly tells Sunday Morning: If by resistance and stalling she means putting a staff process in place to ensure the (president) knew all the pros and cons of what policy decision he might be contemplating so he could make an informed decision, then guilty as charged.]
Undermining a president from the inside is indeed a very dangerous thing, as Haley notes, and her accusation against Kelly and Tillerson rings true given everything else we know about the two men and their behavior while serving in those positions. Tillerson repeatedly made his personal disdain for the President and his lack of support for Trump policies related to North Korea, China and other parts of the world very clear while serving as SOS, which is the main reason why his tenure in the office was so short. Kellys first move after moving into his Chief of Staff role was not to go after the myriad leakers inside the White House, but rather to cut the President off from his most loyal supporters and start to systematically force them out of their jobs.
Rumors have run rampant for more than two years now that both men were willing participants in the mid-2017 plot to dummy up a rationale for removing Trump from office under the 25th Amendment, a plot we know beyond any reasonable doubt that Rod Rosenstein was a part of. If you believe in the whole where theres smoke theres fire paradigm, it seems extremely likely that those persistent rumors must have some basis in reality.
If Haleys contention about the approach by Tillerson and Kelly is accurate and there is little reason to believe that it is not then it would be consistent with a move that would be made as a part of a larger 25th amendment effort targeting the President. Haleys contention here, and cryptic use of the term sidebar plan, is troubling in the extreme, and Tillersons refusal to even respond to it does not reflect well on him. Kellys response, which does not in any way address the accusation, may be even worse.
As mentioned earlier, Haleys interview promoting her new book is also a not-so-subtle attempt to keep herself in the public eye, ready to quickly move in the unlikely event of Trumps actual removal by the Senate. The following passage reveals that part of her personal agenda:
Haley insists she has no immediate plans to run for any office, including the presidency, and as she departed the Trump administration last year she said, I can promise you what Ill be doing is campaigning for this one.
She told ODonnell, A year is a long time in politics. It really is a lifetime in politics. And so, I think whats best for me is take it a year at a time and see what happens.
With her new book, lucrative speaking engagements, and a seat on the corporate board of Boeing, Nikki Haley acknowledges there are still chapters to be written: Im too young to stop fighting. Ill always be out there. Ill always use the power of my voice for what I believe is good.
So, whether the jumping off point becomes early 2020, early 2021 or the 2024 election campaign, you can be sure that Nikki Haley will be vying to become the face of the GOP in the wake of the Trump presidency. Lining herself up as this Presidents most loyal and vocal supporter helps her cause immensely.
That is all.
She actually responded to Sebastien Gorka on Twitter about this and said she DID tell Trump.
You dont get to define those of us with the epithet .....HATER.....who wont accept Haley running for .....some high position
Our opinions are well thought out ......
your opinions do not disqualify ours
Well good that she’s sticking up for Trump but her as president? Noooooo!
Some here have some deep animosity towards Haley.
I thought she did a fine job as the ambassador to the UN. She stood up to the usual nonsense. We were all sad to learn of her resignation. And yes, she did tell the President about these two.
Im not alone, Rush thinks she did a good job at the UN too.
Does this Haley hatred go back to her term as Governor of SC?
Yes, and to her time in congress. Look, Haley is no movement conservative - she’s been pro-abortion and pro-open borders as just a couple of examples.
But, on the other hand, she was absolutely stellar in the UN post - we’ve never had anyone better there, no more staunch defender of Israel and of America-first priorities.
So, she is definitely someone who engenders strong feelings, both pro and con, which is obvious in the responses to this piece. Then again, so is Donald J. Trump.
None dare call it Sedition.....................
Wasn’t one usurpation enough to prove the founders were correct to restrict the office to natural born citizens only?
Someone who was born with only ONE nationality so that they were NATURALLY Americans because they could not be anything else.
No ineligible candidates.
Not Haley, Cruz, Rubio, Jindal or George P. Bush.
Haley was born Nimrata Randhawa to an Indian American Sikh family in Bamberg, South Carolina.
She is a legally born, first-generation American citizen. How is she ineligible? By what law do you assert that?
*** I thought she did a fine job as the ambassador to the UN. She stood up to the usual nonsense. We were all sad to learn of her resignation. ***
I thought she acted like a rude petulant entitled harpy as UN Ambassador. The only sadness I felt about her resignation was that she didn’t do it sooner.
which would explain Rex's sudden departure, and Kelley later.
She said it did tell the President.
She keeps saying if they disagreed with the President, they should have quit. She quit. What did she disagree with the President about, I wonder?
“Anyway, Pence would have to co-operate with any such plot.”
It’s been floated around that he was cooperating, or willing to cooperate, with such a plot.
Haley was born Nimrata Randhawa to an Indian American Sikh family in Bamberg, South Carolina.
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Born an Indian national to two Indian nationals.
Not NATUIRALLY an American.
Natural born citizen means born here of citizen parents.
Natural born citizens are NATURALLY citizens and have only ONE nationality and CANNOT be anything else or they are NOT NATURALLY Americans.
Yes Jr....or maybe Gov. DeSantis. Any of the conservative caucus ....they don’t back down which is essential. Mark Meadows additionally doesn’t trigger the wackos,,,,,could be a benefit.
IMO this woman is not very conservative and is not to be trusted. She will say or do anything to promote herself, however.
Trump FIRED them for a reason. They are rat poison.
I can imagine a huge distraction after the 2020 election if the Republicans enlarge their margin in the senate.
With the passing of RBG on the SCOTUS, were President Trump to need a yuge distraction, he could appoint Ted Cruz to be her replacement. The Democrats would lose their marbles.
*sigh* Ok, whatever.
Good lord.
Read the link provided.
The reason they chose natural born citizen was it was the most restrictive term.
Not born a citizen, that was suggested by Hamilton and rejected.
Not native born, not just citizen.
John Jay in his letter to Washington insisted on natural born citizen to exclude the possibility of foreign influence on the Commander in Chief.
The quality they were going for was someone who was NATURALLY a citizen because they could not be anything else.
Solely an American.
Anyone who is born with more than ONE nationality is NOT naturally an American.
Because naming high-profile repubbie/Bush/RINO insiders now gives her protection FROM the deep state insiders AND these people AND their handlers, and (properly ) removes THEIR credibility on THEIR next TV show interview.
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