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Vanity: Did Sondland Perjure Himself?
11/5/2019 | Its All Over Except...

Posted on 11/05/2019 3:44:39 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...

Amazing how the media portrays this as as a "bombshell reversal."

At the very least he lied.

But his memory was "refreshed* somehow and now to Dems and the media it is true, unless it was the reverse then they would say he was making things up and lying to them.

Taylor, Vindman, etc: In my opinion...

Facts: read the transcript.

Schiff acted like he was Vindman's counsel when he legally can't be and wouldn't let Republicans cross examine him as these Republicans related on TV perhaps because Vindman may have broken the law and talked about the phone call to others.

Morrison torpedoed everyone when he said that he heard nothing illegal on the phone call.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: corruption; didhelienow; didheliethen; impeachment; isheadamnliar; mediabias; scandals; schifty; sondland; taylor; trump; vanity; vindman
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1 posted on 11/05/2019 3:44:39 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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As well, Schifty needs to release the full transcripts. Who knows what the secretive dungeon master is up to with them.


2 posted on 11/05/2019 3:46:57 PM PST by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clown World Then You Have Spent Too Much Time At The Circus)
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Initially or on the modified (schiff scripted) “Uh, I forgot.” version.


3 posted on 11/05/2019 3:48:59 PM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Not buying it.

Schifty may have witness tampered:

Claim: “We have not spoken directly with the whistleblower” before the complaint against President Donald Trump was filed.

Claimed by: Rep. Adam Schiff

Fact check by FactCheck.org: There Was Contact

Schifty lied as he said “we.”

Schifty is forced somewhat out of his dungeon of secrecy and now instead of what may have been a continuation of selective leaks we get a reversal.


4 posted on 11/05/2019 3:54:19 PM PST by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clown World Then You Have Spent Too Much Time At The Circus)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Is it me, or does the Impeachment Train seem to be slowing down quite a bit this week?


5 posted on 11/05/2019 3:54:49 PM PST by montag813
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Congress is gone for a week could be why the impeachment has slowed down to a crawl !!!!


6 posted on 11/05/2019 3:57:19 PM PST by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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Who?


7 posted on 11/05/2019 3:57:36 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: montag813

Uh, what impeachment?


8 posted on 11/05/2019 3:58:57 PM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat
See #8 this thread.😳😁
9 posted on 11/05/2019 3:59:42 PM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: montag813

It has.

Five Thirty Eight has shown that where there was once a 7-8 percent gap in impeach/don’t impeach it has been been cut by more than half and it’s still shrinking.

And that’s with the massive oversampling of Dems and undersampling of Independents.


10 posted on 11/05/2019 3:59:59 PM PST by Its All Over Except ... (If You Haven't Realized You Are In Clown World Then You Have Spent Too Much Time At The Circus)
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Sondland is claiming that the quid pro quo offer was made at a later time, not during the July phone call.

Now that even the MSM are figuring out that the transcript doesn't support the whistleblower claims, the story has to change to another time, another offer, that wasn't recorded or transcribed, so that the "Swamp said, Trump said" game can continue.

11 posted on 11/05/2019 4:05:03 PM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Actually it more meaningless noise to keep the poltical smear going. READ teh story NOT the fake news “Anaylsis”

He “felt” something in a conversation. His feelings are utterly irrelevant. He assumed something that was not part of any direction to him by any part of the US Government. To try and manufacture a “bomb shell” out of this is ludicrous


12 posted on 11/05/2019 4:07:28 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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Actually that not at all what he said. He said he felt the was a requirement for a quid pro quo. He at no point says “I was told by the President that their was quid pro quo in place”.


13 posted on 11/05/2019 4:09:33 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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Kinda feels that way but the POS Mitch signaled the Rats some encouragement today basically in so many words said we’re not there yet so keep working.


14 posted on 11/05/2019 4:26:50 PM PST by gibsonguy
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Was he lying then or is he lying now?


15 posted on 11/05/2019 4:28:04 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Or is he just a congenital liar?


16 posted on 11/05/2019 4:33:11 PM PST by miserare ( Indict Hillary!)
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To: MNJohnnie
Actually that not at all what he said. He said he felt the was a requirement for a quid pro quo. He at no point says “I was told by the President that their was quid pro quo in place”.

I said that Sondland is now claiming that the quid pro quo demand was made after the July phone call. Which is exactly what he said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/05/us/politics/impeachment-trump.html

In his updated testimony, Mr. Sondland recounted how he had discussed the link with Andriy Yermak, a top adviser to President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine, on the sidelines of a Sept. 1 meeting between Vice President Mike Pence and Mr. Zelensky in Warsaw. Mr. Zelensky had discussed the suspension of aid with Mr. Pence, Mr. Sondland said.

“I said that resumption of the U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks,” Mr. Sondland said in the document, which was released by the House committees leading the inquiry, along with the transcript of his original testimony from last month.


17 posted on 11/05/2019 4:33:53 PM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Its All Over Except ...
Perjury? Of course not. A short chat with Sniveling Little Schitt and voila! his memory was “refreshed”.
18 posted on 11/05/2019 4:42:07 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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False.

Your own quote show the lie. There nothing here that says what the Fake News is claiming.

“I said that resumption of the U.S. aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks,” Mr. Sondland

Sondland also told lawmakers when he talked with Trump about Ukraine, Trump told him, "I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. I want Zelensky to do the right thing So once again the Fake News Democrat Fascist Party noise machine is lying to us.

19 posted on 11/05/2019 4:42:59 PM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Its All Over Except ...

Only Republicans can commit perjuty


20 posted on 11/05/2019 4:54:14 PM PST by eyeamok
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