Posted on 10/07/2019 10:09:51 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger
Your Second Civil War: It Ain’t Happening.
OPINION: By Jeffrey A. Friedberg
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PICTURE: The Real USA General George S. Patton, With Ivory-Handle Revolver.
I have read articles. And I have read “Comments,” that follow the articles. I see references to, “a second civil war.”
I see calls for “molon labe…or for, ‘lock and load.’”
I am told that, “70 million Americans stand ready.” I see other militant opinions, and analyses.
But, in my opinion, there can be no “second civil war.”
Unless whoever commands America at that time is leading it.
If there were to be an armed uprising of any sort, the government — whoever might be in charge — would normally be duty-bound to end it. Put it down. Make arrests. And so-on.
For instance, if Donald Trump were President, it would be his job to suppress any armed revolution.
The same goes for any Democrat President.
That is — as stated, unless one, or the other, were leading it — leading a Second American Revolution. Or civil war.
In 1776, only about a third of the country supported the “First” American Revolution.
In 2019, would a third of America again stand up and fight? Given present differences between Americans during, say, World War II, and today’s Americans — no, I don’t think so.
Especially, since, today, there is no way to hide from an all-seeing Government eye. A super science that can read or hear your every word, recognize your face from space, or fly a Hellfire missile through your bedroom window.
There could be no “secret” meetings. No “underground.” No “spy network,” and no “hiding out among the people.” No “swimming like fish,” among them.
Because if the government doesn’t discover you, somebody on your street will damn sure report you.
Try congregating in groups, or “hardened” shelters, and see what happens. Try showing a gun, or wearing black or camo. Try practicing formations, marching, or training. Try “practice” shooting. Try those things and see how fast things happen.
Let’s be more realistic about all this.
You’re not gonna fight Them from your door. You’re not gonna fight them from your driveway. They could park a tank in front of your house. They could flood the neighborhood with armed troops or “violence suppression units,” and surround you.
You’re not gonna fight “enemy” leaders, by storming their redoubts, because they will be deep underground, in hidden, impervious, protected, well-guarded, government bunkers.
Being even more realistic, let’s say that In 2019, if a third of America were to support an armed revolution, that would be about 110,000,000 people. Enough to make an army? Of course.
But I, personally, doubt that would happen. Not as long as “folks” are comfy, have stuff in the fridge, families to consider, careers, new DC Universe movies, and the legacy media to keep them “informed.”
I mean most people would hide; not all of them, of course, but most would. The average person would probably want to keep their head down and “just live my life.”
Also, we are told that as many as 30,000,000 “folks” — here — are from other countries, and may not feel they owe any allegiance to America.
So — how many would stand up and fight?
I don’t think the entire balance of people would fight.
For the sake of conversation, let’s make things even more realistic, and cut that number of 110,000,000 in half. That leaves maybe 55,000,000. Still enough for an army? Yes. But would all that many “folks” stand and fight? Probably not — no.
Playing the odds, even cutting it in half again, to about 27,500,00, it’s still a lot of “folks.” Except, as stated, we are told some 30,000,000 are not even from here.
So — how many would actually stand and fight? What’s the size of this “army?” How many would be armed? How many would be trained? How many would know what to do against a trained and equipped opposition force? And I’m not talking about single-action, AR-15s, and 9mm Glocks.
I’m talking going up against tanks, missiles, artillery, helicopter gunships, and lots of really big, fully automatic, guns.
Oh — and where, exactly, do “folks” go to have this “revolution?” Who’s in charge? Who decides things? What’s the target? What are the rules of engagement?
PICTURE: The Real Face Of USA General George Washington. Reconstructed.
Who watches over them?
Where do they get drinking water and food?
How many tanks do they have? Jets, missiles, trucks. Where do they sleep?
I hear arguments that “ex-service people and police” — Patriots — stand armed, experienced and ready to fight. That there would — therefore — be no such opposing Force willing to kill fellow Americans.
Duh? What would these ex-service people and police be doing? Handing out pamphlets to the other side? It’s said these are the ones ready to fight. Who will they be fighting?
Will they be shooting people? Killing them? Or, will they be shooting “only to wound?” Just enough to make an example?
Would they really shoot Americans?
Of COURSE!
— There will always be people willing to shoot other people. No matter what “side” they may be on. No matter who they support — whether, the President, or Whomever else may be in charge.
Further, what if there are more than two armies, and not just the imagined, one army of Others, and one army of police, ex-servicemen, and additional “patriots?”
There have always been people ready to pull the trigger. There have always been people who thought it was patriotic, religious, orderly, or just plain fun. Killing would take place on both sides. On all sides.
What if religion or race created even more armies? And everyone had people who could pull the trigger?
What if some inflamed congressman or senator somehow got their hands on a nuclear weapon, and some “patriotic,” willing military, and decided to bomb a “conservative” city? We have already been told that can happen.
Where would this war start? Who would participate? What — or who — would be targeted? What’s the order of battle?
How could this war be ended? Who would be in charge to end it?
And then what? Who won? What System would be dominant? Democracy? Communism? Liberty? Equality? Fraternity? One World? How would that particular System be enforced? Who would enforce it?
Where would America have been — or be, all this time? What would happen to America’s leaders, traditions, Constitution, declarations, documents, and other guiding principles? Would America be poised to unfold like a newly majestic butterfly? Like a blazing phoenix rising from its own ashes?
Or would it be crumbling in some hidden bunker?
What’s the answer?
I don’t know.
I can only hope that Donald Trump exposes mighty powers now working against America. That the American people reject and shun them. That anyone who hates America will be dealt with legally, constitutionally, and finally, forever.
I can only hope there will be no second armed insurrection.
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18 years, Laz!
Hell, I was there in 2002.
That’s true. But if they can’t kill us, they would like to make like miserable.
Rule 2: Avoid cities. They are just crowds with roads.
Yes. But on a huge scale.
This author is ignorant. The Mujahideen kicked the crap out of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in a war the Soviets could not win even with all their modern technology and weapons. The Soviets fought for over ten years but eventually gave up. The Mujahideen accomplished this largely with half century old British bolt action rifles, while the Russians had jets, high tech helicopters, night vision and by comparison, unlimited money.
Afghanistan, the “graveyard of empires”, swallowed up the British, Russians and now us. A fools errand.
And suppose they find some jackass who would fire on Americans. I bet the crew chief and everybody else involved with said gunship would have some input.
If the voting booth is honest but what happens if elections are not honest. If there was an uprising of constitution-loving patriots against the leftwing globalists in govt, would the constitution-loving patriotic military turn on the people to keep the fraudulently elected America-haters in power? Or would many soldiers, or even entire divisions of soldiers, desert, and join the patriots bringing their weapons with them?
It would be a terrible thing to happen but I think if given enough provocation the sons and daughters of the pioneers, the pilgrims, and the patriots, and the grandchildren and g-grandchildren of the greatest generation, would remember who they are, and would rise up and take remove these people from power.
What a Crock! Antifa will start it and we’ll finish it! Trump sides with Antifa? Get the F out of here!
Right, 18. My bad.
CW2 will not happen under our present circumstances. Since we don’t know what would be the events to bring us to that point we can’t speculate on our willingness to fight the fight. In 1776 and 1860 certain events caused people to risk life and limb. We may be different people at the present time, but don’t underestimate us when push comes to shove.
cities can be stopped.
he with the most food and ammo wins.
And here I am thinking it was the shoulder-fired AA missiles the CIA provided the mujis that proved to be the tipping point against Ivan.
“We could have them begginig for mercy in a week.”
Even 100,000 men acting independently could shut down the entire country in a few days. Maybe just one full day.
No plan or organization or congregation required.
APB for 100,000 independent operators.
Yeah, right.
Laz! How goes it? Heard you had a cardiac event. All well?
Jeez you do not have to go back that far: Al Queada and ISIS are two recent groups; or the Kurds.
Ol’ Jeffrey has no imagination. He cannot imagine a scenario other then two armies lining up on a field.
I suspect so, but lopsided.
He/she/it has NO IDEA what it's like to live "out here". We have our OWN water sources, and if necessary, our own power. We can grow/slaughter our own food. This guy apparently is dependent on FedGov for his very existence.
Out here, we practice our marksmanship all the time. Who's going to tell us we can't?
All those tanks he fantasizes about have drivers. They all have to pee sometime.
There is NO WAY everyone in the military will sign on to, for example, door-to-door confiscation of guns. No way will every member of the armed forces agree to, for example, blockades of American cities.
Media citiot knows nothing.
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