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Dems *Veto* Red Flag Laws For Gang-Bangers
American Thinker ^ | 9/21/19 | Daniel John Sobieski

Posted on 09/21/2019 6:44:09 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger

If Democrats were serious about using red flag laws to keep guns out if the hands of people who might use them to senselessly murder others and therefore are danger to society, and not just as a gun-control tool to disarm law-abiding citizens, then why did they kill an attempt to use compiled lists of known gang members, which many police departments and law enforcement agencies possess?

Why did they kill a measure to red flag gang members?

And if Beto O’Rourke is going to come and take our guns, particularly our AR-15s, is he going to start on the south side of Chicago? As the Washington Examiner noted on September 14:

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: democratsguns; gangsredflags; gunsgangs; redflaglaws
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1 posted on 09/21/2019 6:44:09 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

-—more on the same subject—

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3778943/posts


2 posted on 09/21/2019 6:47:49 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the meda or government sayabout firearms or explosives--)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

I have said millions of times they want to take guns from non-violent citizens and leave them in the hands of violent criminals.


3 posted on 09/21/2019 6:52:05 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

If you want to understand the real motives of the Left, watch what they do, not what they say. They say that they want red flag laws to keep evil guns out of the hands of criminals and evil doers, but what they do is to exempt gang members. Why? Because their real goal is to disarm their political enemies and the gang bangers are not their enemies.


4 posted on 09/21/2019 6:55:45 AM PDT by centurion316 (')
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

So what if someone erroneously listed as a gang member is denied a gun? I thought the Dems were opposed to anyone owning a gun.


5 posted on 09/21/2019 6:59:59 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

Dems just protecting their constituency...


6 posted on 09/21/2019 7:00:07 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

Probably has something to do with the Haynes vs US SCOTUS ruling, since the red flag laws are actually a gun registration scheme.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haynes_v._United_States

“The original Haynes decision continues to block state prosecutions of criminals who fail to register guns as required by various state law gun registration schemes.”


7 posted on 09/21/2019 7:01:08 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: I want the USA back

I think they want to use chicongo as their private army.


8 posted on 09/21/2019 7:01:36 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger (peace, Love, and Joy To All, Especially Obama and Democrats)
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To: centurion316

I think the gangs give the dems money.


9 posted on 09/21/2019 7:02:09 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger (peace, Love, and Joy To All, Especially Obama and Democrats)
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To: Brilliant

Because gangs are leftist democrat supporters, is why :)


10 posted on 09/21/2019 7:02:44 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger (peace, Love, and Joy To All, Especially Obama and Democrats)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

OBVIOUSLY: this is the Israelis doing it on behalf of Trump, who wants everybody dead, am i right?


11 posted on 09/21/2019 7:04:01 AM PDT by RArtfulogerDodger (peace, Love, and Joy To All, Especially Obama and Democrats)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

At the local political level I don’t doubt it for an instant.


12 posted on 09/21/2019 7:05:06 AM PDT by DickBrannigan ("And the fact that I haven't put a gun in my mouth, you pudding of a woman, makes me a winner!")
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To: centurion316
The triumph of tribalism, racism and political correctness over the prevention of murder.


13 posted on 09/21/2019 7:14:53 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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To: I want the USA back
I have said millions of times they want to take guns from non-violent citizens and leave them in the hands of violent criminals.


I am a basketball fan. I will admit it. I like to watch young athletes who are in their prime play the game, whether they are white, black, Asian or whatever.

Recently there was a video of some Chicago street players, and at the end they got out their guns. At first, I thought it was a parody. But it was not, they all had guns, appeared to be teens or in their 20s. What could possibly go wrong here? How many were possessing these weapons LEGALLY? I would guess, none were. If they were responsible gun owners, I have no problem with their carrying weapons, but I would question why they needed them at the basketball courts. But, the video was in Chicago, and what do I know.

My point is this: Guilliani cleaned up New York with stop and frisk laws. IN ALL OF THESE DEBATES, WHY NO QUESTIONS ON "DO YOU SUPPORT STOP AND FRISK, IF SO, RAISE YOUR HAND". Stop and frisk laws would save 100s in Chicago alone!

There are some good people in the Chicago hoods, and they should not have to live in fear.

14 posted on 09/21/2019 7:15:48 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Please, oh pretty please let Crazy Uncle Joe Biden be the nominee.)
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“Stop and frisk laws would save 100s in Chicago alone!”

They won’t do that for the same reason they did away with the practice in NY. It’s “racist”!


15 posted on 09/21/2019 7:19:21 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: RArtfulogerDodger

Always on the side of the criminals and the terrorists.


16 posted on 09/21/2019 7:20:39 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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“Stop and frisk laws would save 100s in Chicago alone!”

They won’t do that for the same reason they did away with the practice in NY. It’s “racist”!


While I agree with you on their reaction, I don't hear much push from conservatives for it, even though it is obvious what it did for New York and the lives it would save. Why are we not pushing for it?

Maybe we might have to frisk a few grandmas, or 90 year old medal of honor winners, just to be fair. I got stopped and frisked once, but was legal, so no prob.

17 posted on 09/21/2019 7:24:46 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Please, oh pretty please let Crazy Uncle Joe Biden be the nominee.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

“Why are we not pushing for it?”

Nothing strikes fear into a Republican congresscritter as much as being called a racist. They simply have not learned how to combat that verbal juggernaut, so they crawl into a fetal position and lose. Personally,I am sick of it.


18 posted on 09/21/2019 7:35:30 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: Brilliant
“I thought” that right there was your error. I made the same error. The Democrats a/k/a, Socialists are not against guns. They are not against people owning guns. What they are against is people other than them and their associates owning guns. They are not against Government Agencies owing guns because for the most part, they control them. Street gangs they have no problem with them having guns because they can use them. It is the private Citizen, the General Public at large, the public what works and supports them in the lifestyle that they are accustomed to via paying taxes that they do not want having guns.

Why? Because they know that sooner or later the serfs will say,"Enough" and if they are armed, they will be a force to be reckoned with. Unarmed? They only have to send their armed goons out to beat them into compliance. They[Democrats] will not have to leave their boyfriends for the men and girlfriends for the women sides. And last but not least, armed individuals who have the ability to think and reason are Citizens who Democrats hate. Unarmed individuals are slaves. Whom the Democrats love.

Armed individuals in service of the Democrats are Goons. Goons neither have to think or reason. The only have to do as they are told. As evidenced in the daily lives of those in the United States, the Democrats make full use of them. The idol of the Democrats, Lenin referred to them as "useful idiots".

19 posted on 09/21/2019 7:36:00 AM PDT by sport
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To: OrioleFan
1. Gangs won't obey.
2. Gangs take orders.
3. Gangs get Bolshekratic constituency to the polls.
4. Gangs get laundered money from Bolshekrats.
20 posted on 09/21/2019 7:38:53 AM PDT by depressed in 06 (60 in '20. Now, more than ever!)
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