Skip to comments.
A little history for David Hogg and the Democrats on Wounded Knee
Gun Free Zone ^
| 9 September, 2019
| J. KB
Posted on 09/10/2019 5:59:49 AM PDT by marktwain
A little history for David Hogg and the Democrats on Wounded Knee
I saw Miguels post about David Hogg claiming that mass shootings today are somehow related to Wounded Knee and some Harvard level deep thinking like that.
David Hogg is part of the chorus of voices calling for civilian disarmament, which has metastasized thought the Democrats and is now part of every Presidential primary candidates platform.
From History.com:
On December 29, the U.S. Armys 7th Cavalry surrounded a band of Ghost Dancers under Big Foot, a Lakota Sioux chief, near Wounded Knee Creek and demanded they surrender their weapons. As that was happening, a fight broke out between an Indian and a U.S. soldier and a shot was fired, although its unclear from which side. A brutal massacre followed, in which its estimated 150 Indians were killed (some historians put this number at twice as high), nearly half of them women and children. The cavalry lost 25 men.
From the Encyclopedia of the Great Plains published by the University of Nebraska-Lincoln:
While these discussions proceeded in the Lakota camp, a number of Indians began singing Ghost Dance songs, with some rising to throw handfuls of dirt in the air. The troops who surrounded them perceived the singing and dirt throwing as signals to attack, and at this tense moment the fuse was lit. A man named Black Coyote (sometimes called Black Fox) refused to surrender his rifle to a soldier. The two began wrestling over the gun, and in the struggle it discharged. Immediately the nervous troops began firing, while the Miniconjous retrieved their weapons and returned fire.
The militarys rifle fire was complemented with cannon rounds from Hotchkiss guns, whose accuracy and exploding shells were formidable. The outnumbered and outgunned Lakotas fled, and for several hours intermittent gunfire continued, with the military in pursuit. Bodies were found as far away as three miles from the camp. Firing ceased, and by midafternoon the troops had gathered up their dead and wounded, as well as Lakota wounded, and returned to Pine Ridge Agency. The fear of a reprisal attack kept troops and civilians entrenched at the agency until January 3, 1891, when a military-escorted civilian burial party proceeded to the site of the massacre. There they buried 146 Lakotas in a single mass grave. Other dead were accounted for later, bringing the total to more than 250 Lakotas; the Seventh Cavalry lost twenty-five men.
So the Wounded Knee Massacre was the result of the US Government engaging in civilian disarmament.
This horrible massacre, which is a stain on the history of the United States, was the 1890s equivalent of what David Hogg has been demanding for over a year and the Democrats are campaigning on.
By Hoggs current standard, the 7th Calvary are the heroes, taking the rapid-fire, high capacity magazine rifles away from civilians.
This just goes to prove that any disarmament program will be a blood bath, as all it takes for the shooting to start is for one man to refuse to give up his rifle and get into a tussle over it. The idea that several million Americans could be disarmed peacefully is ludicrous if the US Calvary couldnt peacefully disarm a few hundred Indians.
Maybe its because I didnt go Harvard like David Hogg, but I just cant follow the logic here.
TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats; guncontrol; history; hogg; woundedknee
If you like the article, click on the link to to give a hit to Gun Free Zone.
1
posted on
09/10/2019 5:59:49 AM PDT
by
marktwain
To: marktwain
I cannot turn my firearms over to the gov’t.....they failed the background check.
2
posted on
09/10/2019 6:10:04 AM PDT
by
Erik Latranyi
(The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
To: marktwain
Harvard is a Liberal snob, graduation factory.
It’s to your credit that you don’t see THEIR ‘logic’
3
posted on
09/10/2019 6:18:48 AM PDT
by
SMARTY
("Nobility is defined by the demands it makes on us - by obligations, not by rights".)
To: marktwain
Hogg should learn the history of the Colfax Massacre.
4
posted on
09/10/2019 6:28:31 AM PDT
by
cnsmom
(G)
To: marktwain
Hogg shouldn’t have missed so many days of school last year. I’m sure it wasn’t his grades that got him into Harvard.
5
posted on
09/10/2019 6:40:23 AM PDT
by
Berosus
(I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
To: cnsmom
And before he gets too sympathetic for the poor, downtrodden Indians, he might read up on the Mankato Massacre.
6
posted on
09/10/2019 6:43:07 AM PDT
by
IronJack
To: marktwain
Let us not forget Waco (75 killed, including 25 children) . The ATF, ‘suspecting the group of stockpiling illegal weapons’ shot, tear gassed, and incinerated the members of a Christian religious group.
7
posted on
09/10/2019 6:43:32 AM PDT
by
olepap
To: IronJack
That generation has no idea of real history before the 1990s
8
posted on
09/10/2019 7:01:46 AM PDT
by
cnsmom
(G)
To: marktwain
And... even though it was a scene from a movie “The Outlaw Josey Wales”... it has always stuck in my mind what happened to last Confederate holdouts just as soon as they surrendered their weapons to the Union soldiers.
Fletcher: Damn you, Senator. You promised me those men would be decently treated.
Senator Lane: They were decently treated. They were decently fed and then they were decently shot. Those men are common outlaws, nothing more.
So much for due process.
And... then there was the scene from the original “Red Dawn” where all of the veterans were rounded up, disarmed and machine gunned on the hill outside of town.
No, as far as I’m concerned, the leftists can kiss my ass.
9
posted on
09/10/2019 7:46:31 AM PDT
by
Home-of-the-lazy-dog
("Leftists will stand before you and cut off their own head just to prove that they'll do it!")
To: cnsmom
True.
Hogg should also learn the history of ANYTHING.
He’s as ignorant as a movie star.
10
posted on
09/10/2019 8:16:14 AM PDT
by
karnage
To: olepap
11
posted on
09/10/2019 8:16:31 AM PDT
by
karnage
To: marktwain
The bigger abomination than the government massacre at Wounded Knee was that 20 Congressional Medals of Honor were given to men who shot women and children.
To: Erik Latranyi
Best post of the thread. Bravo!
13
posted on
09/10/2019 8:47:23 AM PDT
by
Sergio
(An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
To: Erik Latranyi
14
posted on
09/10/2019 8:49:19 AM PDT
by
M Kehoe
(DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
To: marktwain
In fairness to the US Cavalry, 1890 was just 14 years after Custer was wiped out and just 4 years after Geronimo surrendered.
“Kicking Bear, a Miniconjou Teton Lakota, along with Short Bull, a Miniconjou mystic, made a pilgrimage to Nevada to learn about the new dance. Kicking Bear brought the Ghost Dance back to the Pine Ridge reservation. Kicking Bear gave an entirely different interpretation of Wovokas message. Unlike Wovoka’s anti-violence, the Ghost Dance took on a militaristic aspect and emphasized the possible elimination of the whites...
...When the dance spread to the Lakota, the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) agents became alarmed. They claimed that the Lakota had developed a militaristic approach to the dance, and began making “ghost shirts” they believed would protect them from bullets...
...Kicking Bear assured him that, if the dancers wore their Ghost Dance shirts, the soldiers bullets would not strike them. Sitting Bull consented to Kicking Bear remaining at Standing Rock and teaching the Ghost Dance.
The Standing Rock Indian Agent had Kicking Bear removed, but that did not stop the movement there. The agent, who thought it was a preparation for further hostilities, telegraphed Washington, asked for troops, and blamed Sitting Bull.”
https://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h3775.html
It had been turned into a preparation for battle against whites. MAYBE the Cavalry had some cause for concern.
15
posted on
09/10/2019 9:01:46 AM PDT
by
Mr Rogers
(Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson