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History of Guns
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 1/24/2019 | D Pere

Posted on 01/24/2019 5:01:31 AM PST by w1n1

Which gun laid down the Design Groundwork for the 1911 or Smith&Wesson?
Winchester Model 70's and Remington 870's were famous in the early century, here are five models that paved the way for more famous descendants to gain dominance.

The Winchester Model 54. Introduced in 1925 and wasn't produced until 1936, the Winchester 54 was itself a derivation of the limited-production Winchester Model 51 "Imperial."

The Winchester 54 combined elements of the famous 98 Mauser and 1903 Springfield designs. These features were well-received, and the Model 54 became Winchester’s first commercially viable bolt-action rifle design, with just over 50,000 being built before Winchester’s now-famous Model 70 was introduced in 1936.

The Model 70 itself was a revamp of the Model 54, utilizing the same basic action, but incorporating a hinged drop magazine floor plate (the 54's was stamped steel and fixed), a revolutionary side-swinging three-position safety, and the capacity to mount scopes more efficiently.

The Model 54 was offered in a multitude of calibers: .22 Hornet, .220 Swift, .257 Roberts, .250-3000 Savage, 7x57mm Mauser, 7.65x53mm Argentine, .30-06 Springfield, .30-30 Winchester, .270 Winchester, and 9x57mm Mauser. There are rumors of special order 54s being made in .38-55, .35 Whelen (yes please!) and .32 Special. Fun trivia fact: the Winchester 54 was the rifle in which the famed .270 Winchester cartridge was introduced.

So next time you caress your cherished Winchester Model 70, just remember – there wouldn't be a “Rifleman’s Rifle” without the Model 54. Read the rest of history of guns.


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1 posted on 01/24/2019 5:01:31 AM PST by w1n1
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To: w1n1

So next time you caress your cherished Winchester Model 70, just remember – there wouldn’t be a “Rifleman’s Rifle” without the Model 54.

Huh? Those were bolts, the “Rifleman had a lever.


2 posted on 01/24/2019 5:12:22 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE
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To: READINABLUESTATE

If you read guys like Jack O’Connor or Ted Trueblood or Elmer Kieth back in the mid 20th century, you would know that the Model 70 was known as the ‘riflemans rifle’ by the gun scribes.

Of course The Rifleman, Lucas McCain, whose show took place supposedly in the 1880s carried an 1892 Winchester. Time travel.


3 posted on 01/24/2019 5:48:34 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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To: READINABLUESTATE

Among gun enthusiasts, the model 70 was long referred to as the “Rifleman’s rifle”, Had nothing to do with the TV show by the name of “The Rifleman”,Where Chuck Connors used a 1892 Winchester lever gun.


4 posted on 01/24/2019 5:55:03 AM PST by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: w1n1

My deer rifle is a sporterized Win. 54 in 30-06.
Small rifle with a big kick.


5 posted on 01/24/2019 5:57:51 AM PST by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: READINABLUESTATE

I like the photo posted,
sometimes the clearest
Statement from this BLOG.


6 posted on 01/24/2019 6:33:55 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Vaquero

***Model 70 was known as the ‘riflemans rifle’ by the gun scribes.***

Pre-1964, or post 1964. Winchester upgraded them by down grading them to some extent. Most still prefer pre-1964.


7 posted on 01/24/2019 7:32:03 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Big Red Badger

That photo is of Ned Christie, Cherokee “outlaw”, or was he really an outlaw?

https://www.allthingscherokee.com/ned-christie/


8 posted on 01/24/2019 7:35:12 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Thanks,

He’s probably the Guy on
The Right,,,


9 posted on 01/24/2019 8:19:52 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I am so thankful that people believe there is something wrong with post 64 push feed winchesters. This ignorance allowed me to get mine for a great price and it shoots like a dream. Beautiful too!

I have heard that there were some problem with the checkering of the stock on the early ones. I never saw that myself though. I have also heard that the M1 carbine will not shoot through a quilted Korean soldiers coat when it is cold, and if you throw rice at a wedding all the little birdies will eat it and their little stomachs will swell up and burst open killing them. Don’t say you weren’t warned!


10 posted on 01/24/2019 8:27:19 AM PST by BDParrish (One representative for every 30,000 persons!)
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To: w1n1; Chode; Squantos; SkyDancer; All

Og still use rock.

Og find hard to hurt Og in foot with rock.

Og think Safety...


11 posted on 01/24/2019 9:38:16 AM PST by mabarker1 (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: READINABLUESTATE
So next time you caress your cherished Winchester Model 70, just remember – there wouldn’t be a “Rifleman’s Rifle” without the Model 54.

I'm happy with my Model 71, just not pleased with .348 availability.

12 posted on 01/24/2019 9:42:14 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Vaquero

Saw an old movie last night (Springfield Rifles). It was set during the Civil War and had plenty of Colt 1873 SAA’s and the star of the movie, that beat back the Confederate charge, was the Trapdoor Springfield rifle in 45-70. Unfortunately, they did not time-transport AK-47’s instead.


13 posted on 01/24/2019 10:25:22 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: w1n1
"History of Guns", is it? Maybe American Shooting Journal should pay a little more attention to 'history' themselves. A while back, they put out an article ("Best Pocket Pistols for CCW") touting the SCCY CPX as one of their favorite 'pocket pistols'. Unfortunately, they kind of forgot to mention that the SCCY is an unlicensed knockoff of the Kel-Tec P11, and produced by a company that was (reportedly) started by a former Kel-Tec employee...

;^)

14 posted on 01/24/2019 11:10:15 AM PST by Who is John Galt? ("He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike.")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Oh My!
Ned Christie is
“On the Slab” Dead in the back
of photo!
The others are probably the
Ones who Shot Ned,,,,
NED’s DEAD!


15 posted on 01/24/2019 11:14:09 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Big Red Badger

Bonnie Spears book cover
Has the Same Photo
but ONLY NED.


16 posted on 01/24/2019 11:16:50 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Who is John Galt?

This post is ludacris!


17 posted on 01/24/2019 11:19:57 AM PST by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Big Red Badger
To paraphrase the ASJ article: the next time you caress your SuCCY, just remember – there couldn't be a “Kel-Tec knockoff” without Kel-Tec...

;^)

18 posted on 01/24/2019 1:52:48 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("He therefore who may resist, must be allowed to strike.")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Yes. 64 and later…not the fine hand fitted detail.

Pre 64 is better. Though I had a ‘ 51 model 94 lever gun that would group about a foot at 100yds. It’s collectible so I didn’t much care. But around 3 years ago After trying this and that I took off the front barrel band and noticed it was extremely hard to remove. Seem the band was undersized or warped and forced into place by the manufacturer. I opened it up a hair and reinstalled it. After that it grouped into under 3” at 100 yds. Not as good as my Marlin 336, but more than serviceable for deer etc.


19 posted on 01/24/2019 2:56:04 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Had a minty pre-war 70 carbine in .30-06.

Operative word is had.

I’m going to get a drink now.


20 posted on 01/24/2019 3:02:39 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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