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The weird thing... I HAVE noticed numerous "conservatives" like Mike Pence and Dick Cheney have nothing but fawning praise for this musical. Have any conservative FReepers actually seen this musical, and can you tell what the heck is so great about it that makes it worth seeing a liberal Puerto Rican rapper play the historic figure of Alexander Hamilton? Seems to me conservatives would normally hate this kind of revisionist history from Hollywood liberals who want to change things so it fits with their narrative an ideal America. I don't see anyone fawning over them having the redheaded Little Orphan Annie played by a black girl and revising the story so she loves FDR's New Deal.
1 posted on 10/26/2018 1:28:23 PM PDT by BillyBoy
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It's a valid casting choice.

And maybe someday we will see A Raisin in the Sun or Porgy and Bess with an all-White cast.

Remember things like Carmen Jones? A valid recasting of the French opera as a musical film with African-Americans. You can take or leave it.

Hamilton is no more "history" than 1776. It's entertainment.

The bigger point: name a memorable 21st century Broadway musical or memorable tune from a 21s century Broadway musical.

I can't think of any.

It's a fallow time for musical theater, and people who like that sort of thing will grab at whatever show attracts public notice.

If you don't care about musicals why care about this one?

31 posted on 10/26/2018 2:17:05 PM PDT by x
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I’ll watch it when Porgy & Bess is done with an all Asian cast!


34 posted on 10/26/2018 2:23:10 PM PDT by Reily
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I HAVE noticed numerous "conservatives" like Mike Pence a.....nothing but fawning praise for this musical.

Fawning praise???? Where do you get your information bro, here's Pence's response to his appearance at the play.....

Washington (CNN)Vice President-elect Mike Pence said the boos he faced at the Broadway production of "Hamilton" were "what freedom sounds like." Pence also didn't criticize the show's cast for addressing him from the stage after the play's end Friday night, saying he wasn't offended and understood their message. "I did hear what was said from the stage. I can tell you I wasn't offended by what was said. I will leave to others whether that was the appropriate venue to say it," he said on "Fox News Sunday."

Pence's comments come after Donald Trump's Saturday morning Twitter attacks on "Hamilton," accusing the cast of harassing Pence.

Hardly sounds like fawning praise to me...........Sheesh!

35 posted on 10/26/2018 2:23:14 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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You can’t lose this argument. Simply do nothing.

She’ll never talk to you again.

Sounds like a win to me.


36 posted on 10/26/2018 2:25:04 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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Anything that causes young people or old, learn about the founding fathers is fine.

You have to talk to people in the language they understand. In my parents time it was “the standards”. In my youth it was a mixture of Rogers and Hammerstein on one side and McCartney and Lennon on the other. Today it’s more rap and ethnic.

I’ve heard the show is good. What I’ve seen is not my “style”, but it evidently is popular. And good for the writers.


38 posted on 10/26/2018 2:28:19 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Cumberpatch was more believable as Khan than Ricardo Montoban. Really, look at Freddie Mercury. People from India can get pretty pale.


40 posted on 10/26/2018 2:35:49 PM PDT by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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I'm very much into show tunes, and my best friend is an absolute fanatic. Note: I'm more conservative them he is on the whole; he's quite liberal on social issues, whereas i'm more Libertarian.

He listened to it first, and couldn't stop gushing about it. Told me I just had to listen to it, it's the best musical in years.

"Um...isn't it largely rap and hip-hop? You know I can't stand that stuff."

"Just give it a try. The lyrics are brilliant>

So I did. And....there are a couple of good numbers. The ones by King George (all variations on the same song) are a lot of fun. One or two other songs are decent. The rest is rap and hip-hop, and the lyrics have a few moderately clever lines. Unfortunately, listening to them is like fingernails on a chalkboard, like all rap/hip-hop.

My friend told me I was just being "closeminded" to an entire genre, and was really missing out. To which I replied, "Fine with me. You listen to "Hamilton", and I'll listen to "Candide".

42 posted on 10/26/2018 2:45:14 PM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.”)
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While I don’t agree with the politics of some of the people involved with this show, I can not tell a lie — it’s brilliant. Everything about the show is remarkable, spot on, and inspirational. Every spoken line, musical motif, and theme is nuanced in the right way to tell the story of how some of the most unlikely characters rose above their station in life to build a new nation. The themes are all solid — ie. overcoming loss, rising above circumstances, not throwing away opportunities, creating a great legacy, etc. It’s a show that makes you proud to be an American and I can’t imagine anyone taking issue with the content based on political leanings. It really is an impactful show.


43 posted on 10/26/2018 2:49:46 PM PDT by bpete123 (Yes, Hamilton is THAT good!)
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It’s built into their... beep-boop-beep...programming.


44 posted on 10/26/2018 2:51:28 PM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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I have zero interest in seeing it either. It has (c)rap “music” in it which I detest. Also, I don’t have a good opinion of Hamilton either and this is a nauseating hagiography.


45 posted on 10/26/2018 2:52:32 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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I’ve seen it, and loved it.

I feared they would be smearing beloved Founding Fathers, but I did not feel that at all watching.

The feeling that I got was a true telling of the story, in such a way as to make it interesting, appealing and identifiable to a younger, and a Black audience.

It is a complete biography of Hamilton - historically accurate, and sympathetically portrayed.

America does not bashed - but King George does a bit...

It was very well done, in my opinion. I would recommend it.


46 posted on 10/26/2018 2:57:02 PM PDT by BeauBo
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Actually, Lin Manuel Miranda said right out that he wanted a cast that “Looks like America is now” and issued a casting call for “no whites”.

It does not get any clearer, fam. If you don’t cop on by now, you never will.


47 posted on 10/26/2018 3:03:11 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain)
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Tell her you’ll go see it with her if she’ll go see GOSNELL with you!!


50 posted on 10/26/2018 3:19:49 PM PDT by gtwizard (Income Inequality is called INCENTIVE!)
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There is currently some minor controversy erupting after Linda Cardellini (co-starring in the upcoming Hunter Killer submarine movie) was selected for lead role of Ana Garcia in The Curse of La Llorona. La Llorona is apparently a scary ghost lady who had thrown her children into a river to drown.
52 posted on 10/26/2018 3:20:56 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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I haven’t yet seen it, but given the expense and difficulty of obtaining tickets, I think the correct response would’ve been, “sure, get me a ticket and I’ll go!”. I’m surrounding by the types who think this play is literally the best thing since Obama’s election. Literally, that’s how they see it.

I have a feeling that it might be a barf fest for a conservative, but it does depend on whether you are able to enjoy “good” entertainment that’s made by liberals and includes liberal messages. They wouldn’t be raving about it as they do if it weren’t objectively of good quality. For myself, I hate musicals, but I do love hip hop music, so it’s hard to say where I’d come down. But I’m pretty sure it’s probably good entertainment if you like musicals, like hip hop and can stomach being assaulted by liberal messaging.

I do also find it a bit coincidental that the libs are particularly interested in lionizing Alexander Hamilton at a time when populism and nationalism are on the rise. Hamilton was by no means a socialist, but in today’s context, as I understand him, he’s be probably more on the globalist side of things than say, Thomas Jefferson, or certainly Andrew Jackson.

I personally don’t care one way or the other about them casting people of different races in the different roles. I’d prefer that we live in the world where any one of any race could play any role of any race, but I don’t really care if someone wants to deliberately tweak that. I do think anyone who goes to see this needs to STFU when a white person gets case in a non-white role though.

Finally, I do like that it’s casting one of the Founding Fathers in a good light. I happen to believe that the people who founded this nation where both individually and collectively blessed with divine inspiration and a keen understanding of the human condition, and so the more attention that gets focused on them and their thoughts, the better, IMHO.

Go see it, just don’t pay for it!


55 posted on 10/26/2018 3:38:50 PM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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62 posted on 10/26/2018 3:53:23 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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If you have the chance to see it, you should. Seriously, it’s _really_ good. I didn’t find it biased or PC at all.

The whole soundtrack is on the web. Listen to the scene where George Washington does the unthinkable and steps down to allow others to run for president.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKOKnLvQpD4


64 posted on 10/26/2018 3:57:28 PM PDT by Plexi
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Oh...Oh...Me..ME..ME...

Because a bunch of blacks get to play white crackers?


67 posted on 10/26/2018 4:04:43 PM PDT by Bullish (I'm not going to say "I told you so" about FaceBook... I'm just going to put it in my tagline.)
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I know no one who has a desire to see that garbage.


69 posted on 10/26/2018 4:13:06 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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Because they are lemmings who only gain self worth by being part of the group.

JoMa


70 posted on 10/26/2018 4:14:38 PM PDT by joma89
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