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Vladimir Putin makes fresh start in South Africa
John Helmer in Moscow ^ | August 26, 2018 | John Helmer

Posted on 08/26/2018 2:39:27 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

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To: Blue House Sue

Everyone in SA will be able to live in peace under the current framework...Once the last Boer is murdered and staked out in the sun for the birds to pick at.

That is simply the reality of the situation. No one should be surprised. The ANC takes a lot of philosophical inspiration from the bolsheviks. Death and destruction follows all forms of socialism and communism wherever they go.


41 posted on 08/26/2018 10:36:03 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Traitors are more dangerous than enemies. Vote and act accordingly.)
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To: Blue House Sue

South Africa will not survive. It will starve. And the world will demand aid from the West,’which we will pay for, which will be used to line the pockets of ANC kleptocrats, their reward for their crimes against humanity.


42 posted on 08/26/2018 10:38:42 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Traitors are more dangerous than enemies. Vote and act accordingly.)
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To: Blue House Sue

> but for decades under Apartheid, South Africa practiced a policy where land people were denied property rights due to the color of their skin.

And now South Africa will be a land where people were denied the very right to life itself on that same basis.

Is this an improvement? Is this better than Apartheid?


43 posted on 08/27/2018 12:26:35 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: Blue House Sue

Not for long. The majority government can’t maintain the infrastructure. We have seen this play before, in Zimbabwe.

Mass starvation, brutal dictatorship, genocide, and all the other fun stuff that history is proven was being held back by the apartheid policy.

I can’t help but get the distinct impression that you share the ANC’s opinion that the white population in South Africa has no right to exist.


44 posted on 08/27/2018 12:29:54 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: JamesP81

“The apartheid government was a soft fascist state.”

How can you say that the Apartheid government was a “ soft fascist state” when millions of non whites were forcibly removed from their homes by the government?


45 posted on 08/27/2018 9:22:33 AM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: thoughtomator

I have in no way advocated for the ANC to remove humans from their land, and I did not advocate the NP under Apartheid removing humans from their land.


46 posted on 08/27/2018 9:33:19 AM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Blue House Sue

Because a hard fascist state builds death camps and murders 6 million people in them. SA didn’t exactly rise to that level of evil.

Doesn’t make what they did do OK. Not all evils are equal.


47 posted on 08/27/2018 10:01:35 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Traitors are more dangerous than enemies. Vote and act accordingly.)
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To: Blue House Sue

You advocated for a party to be put in power which could from the very start reasonably have been expected to act exactly as they have.

You can’t take the part that makes you feel good and throw away the dark, dark, consequences. To the degree that your support has assisted to bring about the current situation, you have blood on your hands.


48 posted on 08/27/2018 10:56:36 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: thoughtomator

No blood on my hands.

If you would like to propose a solution to the situation in South Africa, please jot it down and I’ll read it with interest.

As for me, I believe the current government structure will remain and that government will have to be constructively engaged by the international community to adapt some of their current policies.


49 posted on 08/27/2018 11:14:00 AM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Blue House Sue

Deny it all you want, but it’s quite obvious as an observer that you’re perfectly fine with the genocide of the whites and have nowhere near the level of objection to it that you had to Apartheid.

You are pro-genocide, in actual real world fact, whether you admit that to yourself or not.


50 posted on 08/27/2018 11:47:34 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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No, of course not, but his cheerleaders on FR will claim he's gone there to save them, and agree with the NY Slimes that the claims that the South African regime is doing that is just a bunch of racist nonsense.

51 posted on 08/27/2018 1:35:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: thoughtomator

I have condoned the actions of both the NP and ANC governments.

Now, what is your solution to the current state of affairs in South Africa?


52 posted on 08/27/2018 3:33:33 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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> Now, what is your solution to the current state of affairs in South Africa?

You mean, now that the policies you so passionately support have created a genocide-level crisis, how am I going to pull you out of this mess?

I gave you the solution earlier. Break out the popcorn and enjoy the bloodbath you wanted.


53 posted on 08/27/2018 3:46:38 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: thoughtomator

“You mean, now that the policies you so passionately support have created a genocide-level crisis, how am I going to pull you out of this mess?”

I had no role in establishing the racist policies of the NP’s Apartheid or the ANC racist policies, and no where have I been an apologist for the ANC.


54 posted on 08/27/2018 4:02:27 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Blue House Sue

There is no solution. It might be that there never was.


55 posted on 08/27/2018 4:03:22 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Traitors are more dangerous than enemies. Vote and act accordingly.)
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To: JamesP81

IIRC, the incident refers to where a riot broke out. And the left wing media presented a distorted version.


56 posted on 08/27/2018 4:09:28 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Blue House Sue
Supporting the end of apartheid, which you have in no unambiguous terms stated repeatedly that you do, was the prime mover in a chain of events that inevitably led to the accelerating genocide we see now.

You are willingly signing your name to the deed by being an opponent of apartheid. Cause and effect are morally inseparable.

It is if you destroyed a dam that you felt offended nature, then acted as if you had no responsibility whatsoever for the fate of those who drowned in the deluge that erupted when it fell.

At least have the intelligence to realize in hindsight that apartheid was better than genocide.

57 posted on 08/27/2018 4:10:09 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: JamesP81

“There is no solution. It might be that there never was.”

You are probably right.

However, we do know that South Africa will never go back to the days where a white minority control the functions of government, segregated people, and micro-managing people’s lives.

Instead, we know that the structures of government will remain similar to what they are today and current policies can only be modified by involvement in the current regime.


58 posted on 08/27/2018 4:11:23 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: thoughtomator

There is no way that South Africa goes back to Apartheid.


59 posted on 08/27/2018 4:13:15 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Blue House Sue

They will become Africa’s version of a Stalinist regime. They’re almost there now.

Wherever such ideology goes, misery, mass murder, and destruction follows.


60 posted on 08/27/2018 7:38:04 PM PDT by JamesP81 (Traitors are more dangerous than enemies. Vote and act accordingly.)
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