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San Diego Protestors Want Censorship and Gun Control
Gun Watch ^
| 18 August,2018
| Dean Weingarten
Posted on 08/18/2018 3:59:13 AM PDT by marktwain
Those pushing for a disarmed population have been educated to the fact that effective restrictions on arms cannot be achieved without strong government censorship and control over information. The First and Second Amendments in the Bill of Rights reinforce each other and make restrictions on both free expression and the right to keep and bear arms difficult. A spokesperson articulated the protestors passion for a government regulations that the believe will make them safe.
From CBS8.com:
SAN DIEGO (NEWS 8) - Protestors of the Del Mar Gun Show addressed the Fair Board on Tuesday afternoon with their newest concerns.
The protestors want the board to ban sellers of blueprints or anything else that can make 3D-printed guns.
Demonstrators say, anyone can log on and download the plans to produce the guns. We have to regulate anything that is potentially dangerous. Period. The fact that the internet makes it easier to get these things makes it all the more necessary to have regulations in place.
(snip)
On Tuesday, protestors encouraged the board to consider banning any person or business that promotes 3D-printed guns.
There have been books published about how to make guns for centuries. Americans have been making their own guns for all of that time. In the 1950s and 1960s, it was common for high school students to make guns as a shop project. A friend of mine made a small pistol. He used a sand-casting technique to make the frame. I and a friend made a small replica cannon.
In an industrial society, guns are easily made with existing and common metal shapes. The Army published a manual on making pistols that are more capablle that the 3D Liberator out of hardware store parts.
The San Diego protestors want a government that controls all parts of life to give them an illusion of safety. Everything is potentially dangerous. According to the protestor, that means everything should be regulated by the government.
It is a concise summation of the Progressive vision of utopia.
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TOPICS: Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2020election; 2ndamendment; 3d; antifa; banglist; ca; california; election2018; election2020; nra; protestors; sandiego; secondamendment
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posted on
08/18/2018 7:04:37 AM PDT
by
PROCON
('Progressive' is a Euphemism for Totalitarian)
To: marktwain
“We have to regulate anything that is potentially dangerous. Period.”
That includes, rocks, 2x4’s, cars, buses, trucks, bicycles, nails, screwdrivers, airplanes and I almost forgot the most dangerous thing in the entire world -
LIBERALS
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posted on
08/18/2018 7:29:20 AM PDT
by
Colo9250
(Send Army Corps of Engineers to build wall and Marines to protect them, NOW!)
To: marktwain
I don't mean to create a cross-subject war, but at its core isn't the same means by which these protesters want to quash the marketplace of ideas/regulate guns out of existence, the SAME as those who want government intervention in the FB and Google situation?
Indeed, let's take Al Franken's call for federal oversight of FB et al, change some words, and see if we like what he says?
The government has a responsibility to ensure that these 3D gun blueprints do not endanger our national security, our democracy, or our fundamental freedoms.
We need to talk about 3D guns in digital advertising and how it influences crazy people and encourages a disregard for Americans safety.
And finally, we desperately need to conduct vigorous oversight in the form of investigations and hearings to fully understand current 3D printing practices and the potential for harm. We must work together to make this happen.
To: marktwain; PROCON; mylife; Joe Brower; MaxMax; Randy Larsen; waterhill; Envisioning; AZ .44 MAG; ...
"...Those pushing for a disarmed population..." ... are typically NOT the ones who will have to go door-to-door to do so. They're perfectly fine and willing to sacrifice other peoples' lives to try and have us murdered.
"...The Bill of Rights gets in the way of those who wish to disarm us...."
The firearm in YOUR HANDs is what gets in their way. The BoR is just words on paper unless we're willing to back it up. Since they obviously don't believe in those words anymore, that contract is broken.
They need to understand that. And if they don't, well.... they'll be taught about it very quickly.
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posted on
08/18/2018 7:36:38 AM PDT
by
NFHale
(The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
To: NFHale
The people pushing for a disarmed population are well aware of the problem of disarming people with door to door searches, en mass.
They have long planned to avoid that problem by stretching out the disarmament over decades, intergenerationally, so your great grandkids will recoil when they find the firearm and ammunition that you hid away.
3D guns threatens that process by making the idea of gun control less plausible.
Having a citizenry who are willing to fight is a wonderful deterrent.
Keeping and educating a citizenry to be ready to fight is difficult, and what they aim to undermine.
The powerful in societies have been successful at this around the world. Just look at Japan and China and Europe. The U.S. Second Amendment is a singular accomplishment.
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posted on
08/18/2018 7:45:07 AM PDT
by
marktwain
(President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
To: marktwain
WRT that pipe pistol, how do you get a 9mm slug (.356 cal.) through a 1/4 inch pipe?
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posted on
08/18/2018 7:53:29 AM PDT
by
Ancesthntr
("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
To: NFHale
I get so weary of these aholes that hide behind weasel words.
Those that claim the words in the 2nd amendment don’t mean what they say, and all the supporting documents don’t exist in their minds.
Sorry chumps, regardless of papers I reserve the right tp fight your BS, AND IT IS WRITTEN AND LAW
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posted on
08/18/2018 7:58:18 AM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: marktwain
"... The U.S. Second Amendment is a singular accomplishment...." Absolutely, no question about it and no argument. But again - it's only words on paper unless a sizable portion of the people are willing to use it for it's intended purpose.
And one chunk of the population does NOT care about those words and what they mean.
"...They have long planned to avoid that problem ..."
If they set it off, it needs to be made a very personal lesson for those planning and pushing it.
"...3D guns threatens that process by making the idea of gun control less plausible...."
Yeah, chuckle... they started losing their minds over it 2.7 seconds after the first article hit the 'net.
"...Having a citizenry who are willing to fight is a wonderful deterrent....Keeping and educating a citizenry..."
Which is exactly my point. That part is up to US. Every single one of us who calls themselves "American" and who loves this Country and what it stands for.
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posted on
08/18/2018 7:59:22 AM PDT
by
NFHale
(The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
To: NFHale
These rights are not given by Gov, but OUR Gov recognizes that.
Go wear a tutu Libtard, I wont stop ya, so don’t try to stop me carrying a gun.
Fair enough fairy?
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posted on
08/18/2018 8:05:41 AM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: mylife; marktwain
....I reserve the right to fight ... And THAT, right there, is exactly what I was talking about.
Multiply that attitude by a couple million - a couple million who are EDUCATING and TEACHING kids and women on the rights, duties, and obligations of BEING AMERICANS - and the problem for the other side skyrockets.
We're only as free as we're willing to fight to be, at the end of the day.
I reserve that Right too, my friends. With absolute reckless ferocity.
I was born an American; I live an American; I shall die an American; and I intend to perform the duties incumbent upon me in that character to the end of my career. I mean to do this with absolute disregard of personal consequences. Daniel Webster,
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posted on
08/18/2018 8:06:39 AM PDT
by
NFHale
(The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
To: marktwain
The Brown Shirts seem to be getting more agitated each day.
Too bad they have so many people listening to them.
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posted on
08/18/2018 8:06:40 AM PDT
by
JayAr36
(Washinton DC, District of Corruption proven daily)
To: Ancesthntr; All
WRT that pipe pistol, how do you get a 9mm slug (.356 cal.) through a 1/4 inch pipe? Nominal 1/4" galvanized pipe has an actual inside diameter of very close to .380 inches.
I have measured it.
There isn't a close fit between the nominal dimension and the actual dimensions. The best you can say is that 1/4" galvanized water pipe is smaller than 1/2".
3/8" galvanized water pipe has an inside diameter of very close to .480, which makes it usable for improvised firearms of .45 caliber.
As I recall, 1/2 inch galvanized is close to 20 gauge; and 3/4 inch galvanized works pretty well for 12 gauge.
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posted on
08/18/2018 8:08:02 AM PDT
by
marktwain
(President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
To: mylife; marktwain
“..Go wear a tutu Libtard...”
Chuckle... High fashion, for some of them.
But they’re just the useful idiots. The real problem is those behind them, pushing them and writing up the bills that get shoved into filing cabinets, waiting for the democoms to “seize control” of Fedzilla again.
Those are the apparatchiks that represent the real threat.
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posted on
08/18/2018 8:09:14 AM PDT
by
NFHale
(The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
To: NFHale
Indeed, and I aint waving any thing in anyone’s face, You are!
Tolerant liberal always in everyone’s business...
Stand bye buttheads!
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posted on
08/18/2018 8:12:37 AM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: marktwain
I bought my 1st gun in SD when Ca was a free state.
Cash on the barrelhead down at the Scottish Rite Temple.
The spiral Ca is in is stunning
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posted on
08/18/2018 8:16:02 AM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: mylife
“..aint waving any thing in anyones face, you are...”
It’s what they do.
In their minds, if they don’t like something, it needs to be gone, regardless of whether or not it’s someone else’s Right.
Private Property? Nah. “Common Good”, they’ll say, and use gov force to confiscate it.
Free Speech? Nope. Only if it agrees with THEIR warped view. And they’ll use gov force to shut us up.
Religious freedom? Nix. Only when it agrees with whatever “spirit du jour” they believe in today, or tomorrow... and they’ll use gov force to make you comply.
Notice a pattern there???
They’re no better than the Nazis.
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posted on
08/18/2018 8:19:51 AM PDT
by
NFHale
(The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
To: NFHale
You get it, I think Trump gets it, and he is driving them into the stark light of day.
keep yer powder dry.
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posted on
08/18/2018 8:20:36 AM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: NFHale
Did to see Liawathaw this week? She introduced a bill to nationalize all company’s in the USA for the PEOPLE.
I know lots of stupid people but yer gonna wave that flag as we watch Venezuela circle the bowl?
LOL! Good luck with that.
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posted on
08/18/2018 8:31:43 AM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: mylife
Trump definitely gets it.
I think now more than he ever did, he understands EXACTLY what the dems have become and what they intended to do to us.
We elected him, and threw a monkey wrench into their carefully planned Bolshevik 2.0 revolution.
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posted on
08/18/2018 8:31:49 AM PDT
by
NFHale
(The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
To: mylife
“...onna wave that flag as we watch Venezuela circle the bowl?...”
Well, in HER mind, and in the minds of completely interchangeable, completely replaceable Libtards everywhere, “The wrong people were in charge... WE’LL get it right THIS time...”
Unfortunately, there’s always the small matter of a body count whenever they try to “get it right”.
But this ain’t Venezuela, and they’ll be in for a rude, rude awakening.
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posted on
08/18/2018 8:34:01 AM PDT
by
NFHale
(The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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