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What’s More Dangerous, Religion or Political Ideology?
IWB ^ | Daniel Carter

Posted on 07/16/2018 7:40:09 AM PDT by davikkm

Ask just about any diehard atheist what the most dangerous part of human nature is, and they will tell you it’s religion. In all honesty, this used to be me. And to be fair, religion has inspired people to commit some of the obscenest atrocities in human history; The Crusades, the German Peasants’ War, French Wars of Religion, and the Thirty Years’ War, to name a few.

But what major acts of violence have been committed by major nations in the name of religion in modern times? There have been sporadic occurrences of religious violence by the underdeveloped world. For example, the Sunni and Shia wars in the Middle East, the Nigerian Civil War, the First and Second Sudanese Civil Wars and the Lebanese Civil War were all fought over religion. However, there is now something far more malignant in human nature than religion. In the modern world, political ideology has replaced religion as the main dogma that leads people to commit heinous acts.

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To: fruser1
Now, with mostly governments having that power, that’s where the evil people are drawn

After the Established Churches lost 1) their licenses to make kings and 2) their licenses to kill, evil people turned to robbing banks because that's where the money was. Today, evil people go into government service because that's now where the money is.

41 posted on 07/16/2018 8:39:08 AM PDT by snarkpup ("Socialism is like, 'Hey kid, get in my van. I've got a mountain of candy back there.'"-Styx)
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To: davikkm

Both are dangerous.

People are crazy.


42 posted on 07/16/2018 8:40:00 AM PDT by chris37 ("I am everybody." -Mark Robinson)
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To: usafretired
Since WWII, the US has killed more than 20 million people in the name of democracy.

My guess is that this refers to defending against Communist aggression and ‘Nation’ building.

Nicaragua, Iraq, Granada, Viet Nam, Panama.

43 posted on 07/16/2018 8:42:07 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: snarkpup; davikkm; MNJohnnie

When Leftist French intellectuals wrote “The Black Book of Communism” some years ago, they did not know they would discover that Karl Marx was the biggest mass murderer in the history of the world... since the beginning of time Communism murdered more people than any other force known to mankind.

At the time, Bill Maher had been making the case that religion and Christianity had caused more deaths than any other force in history... and The Black Book of Communism proved him completely wrong.

I recall thinking that even the title of Maher’s former tv show, “Politically Incorrect” stemmed from Soviet/ChiCom arrest laws... you were arrested for holding “politically incorrect” views and thrown in jail; and yet this term holds a campy innocuousness in our pop culture.

In any case, those lefty French reluctantly published the Black Book and it was translated into English a few years later.

Bernie fans should be sent a copy.


44 posted on 07/16/2018 8:42:41 AM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: Pontiac

That figure is probably lowballing US abortion rates. Last I heard, the figure was 60 million and counting. How will we stand before the righteous Judge of the World as citizens with this much innocent blood on our hands?


45 posted on 07/16/2018 8:46:04 AM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: davikkm

Extremism is the true villain. Take any religion or ideology then take it to an extreme it was never meant to be and there’s a problem. Sadly there are far too many weak-minded souls out there just looking for something bigger than themselves to glom onto. Sometimes it’s for something good, other times, not so much.


46 posted on 07/16/2018 9:05:58 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is the Mental/Moral Equivalent of End Stage Cancer)
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To: MNJohnnie

“There is a huge difference between being religious and being Christian.”

Jesus had/has serious problems with religion.


47 posted on 07/16/2018 9:13:22 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Socialism is for losers.)
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To: Sontagged
Last I heard, the figure was 60 million and counting. How will we stand before the righteous Judge of the World as citizens with this much innocent blood on our hands?

I guess if you think of Abortion as sacrifices to the god of convenience it fits in this thread.

And of course, the Democrats have made Abortion part of their ideology.

So, I guess Abortion fits in this thread on both sides.

48 posted on 07/16/2018 9:16:27 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Pontiac

You make a very good point, indeed.

And like all Judeo Christians in this modern age, I tend to discount the idea that there are actual religious atheists, or “satanists” who merchandise dead baby parts and relish abortion as a sacrifice to Molech in a strictly religious sense.


49 posted on 07/16/2018 9:21:46 AM PDT by Sontagged (TY Lord Jesus for being the Way, the Truth & the Life. Have mercy on those trapped in the Snake Pit!)
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To: davikkm

Liberal ideology. It’s religion, fascism, and politics.


50 posted on 07/16/2018 9:26:59 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: GOPJ

“Political ideology ended slavery too... and created the concepts behind our rule of law and Bill of Rights.”

That political ideology was heavily influenced by the Judeo Christian belief that man was created in God’s image. Not the king made in God’s image, not just a group of people. Rabbi Jonathan Sacks has an excellent essay on this.


51 posted on 07/16/2018 9:29:28 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Fred Hayek
Rabbi Jonathan Sacks has an excellent essay on this.

Link?

52 posted on 07/16/2018 9:30:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-s1_nfs7f4 STOP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-IsingvI_I)
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To: davikkm

A religion that’s actually a political movement that is trying to convert the whole world violently.


53 posted on 07/16/2018 9:33:42 AM PDT by I want the USA back (*slam is a political movement that hides behind the illusion of religion.)
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To: Bonemaker

Tools can be used for good or evil... all tools - all weapons.


54 posted on 07/16/2018 9:38:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-s1_nfs7f4 STOP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-IsingvI_I)
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To: GOPJ

Jonathan Sacks book, “Essays on Ethics, a Weekly Reading of the Jewish Bible”, 2016, Maggid Books.
A book, not a website.
I am old school, I still read some stuff printed on dead trees.


55 posted on 07/16/2018 9:48:23 AM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: davikkm

The crusades were fought to stop the horror of Islam.


56 posted on 07/16/2018 11:11:49 AM PDT by maddogtiger
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To: Sontagged

“When Leftist French intellectuals wrote “The Black Book of Communism” some years ago, they did not know they would discover that Karl Marx was the biggest mass murderer in the history of the world... since the beginning of time Communism murdered more people than any other force known to mankind.”


That is simply not correct. Islam has murdered far more people over the last 1,400 years...but Islam has murdered at a slower rate per year, owing to a lack of the proper technology (thank God).


58 posted on 07/16/2018 11:19:44 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: davikkm

That’s a good question. The answer depends on what you value most -— your lifestyle or your rationality.


59 posted on 07/16/2018 12:54:45 PM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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To: davikkm
And to be fair, religion has inspired people to commit some of the obscenest atrocities in human history; The Crusades...

Stopped reading right there. Ignoramus.

60 posted on 07/16/2018 3:14:28 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("There is no grievance that is a fit object of redress by mob law." --Abraham Lincoln)
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