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1 posted on 06/24/2018 8:30:08 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony
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Website is so full of obscuring popups and grey outside I gave OP trying to read the article.

OBNOXIOUS


2 posted on 06/24/2018 8:33:57 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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The logical vegan answer?


A few thoughts.

1) When you take philosophy (the search for truth)out of science and society, you also lose the concept of logic.

2) Something looked at in isolation looks much different than something looked at within systems. At least in my elementary schools we studied systems. This is the problem with global warming it is a few measuring points ignoring the effect of countless measuring points and countless systems...……….

BUT, when you factor in systems, the answer gets much different...……………………………..


3 posted on 06/24/2018 8:46:34 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Well we condition our kids to sit at desks a lot nowadays. I think fewer and fewer know how to mow the lawn.


4 posted on 06/24/2018 9:04:34 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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I have some comments for this and it concerns the notion of religion and man made things.

G-d made the system that is the universe in which we live and made the genetics and the science which we understand (although not anywhere near completely) because we have our ability to study and archive and learn. The study of genetics and cosmology are part of our task in this life.

Another part of our task is to live to the best that we can and achieve what we can and learn what we can. This includes making plant based meat substitutes that taste good and provide nutrition. It can also include deciding not to ingest things that have been made or contain processes that are not as natural as something not touched by the hand of man.

We have the ability to make modifications that allow foodstuff to grow and flourish in unusable soil. We can defeat spoilage and disease and reach for new levels of medicine. There are many people alive today because their natural death was delayed by man made invention.

And still one can try to deny all that has been accomplished, and that too is allowed. For me and mine, the development of man made meat products is a step in the right direction and is allowed by the system in which we were born.


5 posted on 06/24/2018 9:05:36 AM PDT by KC_for_Freedom
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This past day I read an article in the WSJ (no link - paywall) from a journalist environmentalist (UK), Mark Lynas, who had been rabidly anti-GMO from his adolescence until about 5 years ago when he totally switched camps to being pro-GMO (albeit on the basis of climate change).

A big point that he makes is that GMO modifications for pest and drought resistance is reducing the use of pesticides / toxins, sometimes down to a third or less usage. Yet the activists persist which is a lesson in the near religious aspect of the far edge fanaticism in any movement.


6 posted on 06/24/2018 9:06:28 AM PDT by SES1066 (Happiness is a depressed Washington, DC housing market!)
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Genetically modified food is rejected by the left. But they are obsessed with doing everything else they can to interfere with Nature. They would love it if they could change someone’s XX or XY chromosome, to turn them into the opposite sex.
Don’t look for consistency with the left. They are capable of holding two contradictory thoughts in their minds at the same time without seeing the conflict.


7 posted on 06/24/2018 9:12:11 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism is the denial of human nature.)
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Genetic engineering has been going on for centuries. The only difference is that we have better tools to do it now.


8 posted on 06/24/2018 9:15:43 AM PDT by Brilliant
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It’s the law of unintended consequences that I tend to worry about and our fully mapping the human genome was a real breath-taker, that’s for sure.

Humans mess with stuff, for good and bad reasons. That’s just the way we are, but generally the intent is to make something better by making it even more the in way God made it.

I’m okay with that. I spent the 70s and early 80s in farm country, where hybrid corn and beans and pure-bred hogs and cattle were the basic staples of life and business.

I remember detassling hybrid seed corn as being a hard summer job for bus loads of high school kids, but it sure paid well!

In those days, humans used more or less the same methods that God does to create our something betters. It was slow trial and error, but effective.

Nowadays, we use our own tools to quickly isolate, cut and splice away God’s genetic work to replace it with our own.

This seems like a more direct and better way to do the same things and maybe it is.

However, as an observer, I can’t help but notice how our taking Him out of anything we do generally goes bad sooner or later.

More often than not, that happens about the time we go too far too fast, and then do something stupid because our ego or checkbook or who knows what thinks that would be a good idea.

Which then brings us back to the law of unintended consequences.

10 posted on 06/24/2018 10:17:34 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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DNA is God's creative tool that He designed and employed.

The only thing scientists can do is learn to understand it and try to change it.

They cannot create DNA.

11 posted on 06/24/2018 10:44:48 AM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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that man can build a better mousetrap or, in this case extinct “terrible lizard,” than God.


Why not? God’s craftsmanship is woeful. My dog can make his own vitamin C, but I can’t. What’s the deal with that?


12 posted on 06/24/2018 11:44:59 AM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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Label GMO foods.


14 posted on 06/24/2018 1:08:49 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (A Texas Deplorable.)
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I remember when there were objection to producing plutonium, as it was a unnatural element, not made by God. I believe God gave us brains to use, and except for a very few "Thou shalt nots," we're pretty much free to use them as we please, including making plutonium as well as higher-mass transuranics, and recreating dinosaurs.
16 posted on 06/24/2018 3:45:21 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney
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What of Monsanto seeking to ruin private farmers who do not want Monsanto seeds but who are helplessly exposed to their patented seeds via open trucks on public thoroughfares, and are then accused of violating patent?

What of Monsanto bribing legislators through lobbyists to attempt to outlaw all heirloom (i.e., natural and non-patentable) seeds to force all farmers to buy Monsanto GMO seeds that do not reproduce and must thus be repurchased each year?

What of Monsanto buying Beealogics, a non-profit company researching Beehive Colony Collapse Disorder, then burying the data that correlates their Roundup witn Beehive Colony Collapse Disorder?


18 posted on 06/24/2018 5:23:24 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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NOT recreating, only MINOR modifications.

NOTHING original has ever been done without reusing/manipulating the complex mechanisms already there.


20 posted on 06/24/2018 5:36:22 PM PDT by elbook
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