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The Ultimate John Kennedy Assassination Theory [Updated]
Janitor's view ^ | May 29, 2018 | Reasonmclucus

Posted on 05/29/2018 8:33:59 AM PDT by kathsua

For decades the debate over who killed President John F. Kennedy has involved one group who claims Lee Harvey Oswald did it and another blaming the CIA. They continue to ignore the possibility both claims are correct. The CIA is a spy organization. Some of its agents masquerade as supporters of the enemy so they can get inside enemy organizations.

[A few hours after posting on this subject I thought of a major reason why many of us believe Oswald might have been working for someone else instead of acting on his own. I'll add it as a post script.]

Oswald could easily have been such a covert agent. If so he would have been a logical choice to kill Kennedy. The CIA might have hoped Oswald's apparent support for Cuban President Fidel Castro would cause public opinion to demand retaliation against Castro. Oswald might have planned "to give into" expected intensive interrogation and say the Cuban government had told him to shoot Kennedy.

I don't have any information that Oswald was or wasn't associated with the CIA. Of course the CIA would never admit if he was with the CIA. His previous flirtations with Russia and Cuba might have been efforts to gain information for the CIA. The communists lack of interest in him could have indicated they were suspicious of his motives.

I have always been troubled by the fact that someone with Oswald's background was allowed to be where he was on that fateful day. The previous school year I had done a research paper on the Secret Service. My research indicated that the Secret Service would normally have prevented someone like Oswald from being in a building along the motorcade route.

One fact that wasn't known to the public at the time was that one of the last actions taken by the CIA's predecessor, the OSS, was the killing of General George Patton.

I have no interest in pursuing this theory further I'll leave that decision up to those who are more familiar with the incident than I am.

P.S. We get our beliefs about subjects such as killers from related historical events and from fiction events in television shows and movies. The assassination of John Kennedy didn't fit the pattern of other presidential assassinations and assassination attempts. Presidents Abraham Lincoln, James Garfield and William McKinley were all killed at short range. President Ronald Reagan was shot at short range. Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme tried to shoot President Gerald Ford at close range. The Puerto Ricans who attempted to shoot their way into President Harry Truman's residence wanted to get close enough to kill him.

The assassination of Kennedy fits the pattern of the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King who was shot by paid killer James Earl Ray from concealment at a distance with a rifle. Oswald shot Kennedy from concealment at a distance with a rifle. On television and in movies professional killers. generally fire at their intended victims from concealment at a distance with a rifle

Typical presidential assassins seem to want people to know what they have done. John Wilkes Booth killed Abraham Lincoln in front of people attending a play. Professional killers usually want to get away with their crimes so they try to avoid being identified


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: assassin; cia; jfk; johnkennedy; kennedy; leeharveyoswald
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Oswald in the same organization as E. Howard Hunt and G. Gordon Liddy. Makes sense to me. I have trouble with conspiracy theories that don't include Oswald.
1 posted on 05/29/2018 8:34:00 AM PDT by kathsua
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To: kathsua

Oswald is always part of it. The patsy is very important.


2 posted on 05/29/2018 8:36:10 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: bmwcyle

Exactly- he might have even know it was planned- but not realized he was being set up to take the fall


3 posted on 05/29/2018 8:37:24 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: kathsua

It is much less complicated than that.

The only theory that makes sense, is that Oswald was gay and was obsessed with JFK.

In order to have a homosexual relationship with JFK, Oswald knew that he had to get rid of Jackie.

On the day of the ‘assassination,’ Oswald was aiming a Jackie, but missed.

It was quite an ironic ordeal for Mr. Oswald.


4 posted on 05/29/2018 8:40:03 AM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: bmwcyle

And I doubt very much he fired a single shot


5 posted on 05/29/2018 8:41:03 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Mr. K

And of course former CIA head(of a different era) George HW Bush doesn’t remember where he was the day Kennedy died. That’s a big whoops.


6 posted on 05/29/2018 8:41:27 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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To: kathsua

7 posted on 05/29/2018 8:41:41 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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"Exactly- he might have even know it was planned- but not realized he was being set up to take the fall"

Yep, he missed the first rule of covert assassination plots - if you can't spot who's being used as the patsy then you are the patsy.

8 posted on 05/29/2018 8:42:39 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Blue House Sue

Your erah gay theory may have some erah merrit.


9 posted on 05/29/2018 8:43:16 AM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: kathsua

The “Smoking Man” did it!


10 posted on 05/29/2018 8:45:04 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: kathsua

You have to talk about the motivation.


11 posted on 05/29/2018 8:45:55 AM PDT by granada
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To: Blue House Sue

It was a suicide.

JFK arranged it all; Oswald, Ruby, etc...


12 posted on 05/29/2018 8:45:59 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: kathsua

The key to the Kennedy assassination is not Oswald. It is Jack Ruby.


13 posted on 05/29/2018 8:47:02 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: kathsua
One fact that wasn't known to the public at the time was that one of the last actions taken by the CIA's predecessor, the OSS, was the killing of General George Patton.

Sure, this looks like an article to take seriously. /s

14 posted on 05/29/2018 8:47:14 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Time to get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US!)
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To: Renegade

The Zapruder film has obviously been tampered with to a large degree (as studies have shown).

Ergo, the government tampered with the evidence.

That’s enough to indicate there is more to the story than has been told.


15 posted on 05/29/2018 8:47:47 AM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: Blue House Sue

I am not aware of Oswald being homosexual. If you accept the lone gunman theory and assuming Oswald as the gunman, the more plausible explanation would be that Oswald, a Communist, wanted to strike a blow against capitalism and America by taking out the leader of the free world.


16 posted on 05/29/2018 8:47:53 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: kathsua

G Gordon should finally tell the world what he knows before he is gone. He was on the radio a few months ago and at age 87 sounded really weak and old.


17 posted on 05/29/2018 8:50:14 AM PDT by EC Washington
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To: Sans-Culotte

And, doncha know, the CIA sent GHW Bush to West Texas with oil business as a cover while he was being trained as a CIA mastermind! /s


18 posted on 05/29/2018 8:50:53 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: kathsua

It was Darwin that killed him off, he was a moron like all the Kennedys.

“Hey Jack, we are going to drive you around in a motorcade and you’ll be riding in convertible with the roof down, and the day before we are going to alert the public to the EXACT route you will be taking, it’s perfectly safe because only 3 Presidents were assassinated before”

“Gee errrabah, sounds good to me errraaabah!”


19 posted on 05/29/2018 8:52:00 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Vox populi, vox dei)
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To: EC Washington

Myself, I expect the Patton story is at least as interesting.


20 posted on 05/29/2018 8:52:47 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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