Posted on 05/29/2018 8:33:59 AM PDT by kathsua
For decades the debate over who killed President John F. Kennedy has involved one group who claims Lee Harvey Oswald did it and another blaming the CIA. They continue to ignore the possibility both claims are correct. The CIA is a spy organization. Some of its agents masquerade as supporters of the enemy so they can get inside enemy organizations.
[A few hours after posting on this subject I thought of a major reason why many of us believe Oswald might have been working for someone else instead of acting on his own. I'll add it as a post script.]
Oswald could easily have been such a covert agent. If so he would have been a logical choice to kill Kennedy. The CIA might have hoped Oswald's apparent support for Cuban President Fidel Castro would cause public opinion to demand retaliation against Castro. Oswald might have planned "to give into" expected intensive interrogation and say the Cuban government had told him to shoot Kennedy.
I don't have any information that Oswald was or wasn't associated with the CIA. Of course the CIA would never admit if he was with the CIA. His previous flirtations with Russia and Cuba might have been efforts to gain information for the CIA. The communists lack of interest in him could have indicated they were suspicious of his motives.
I have always been troubled by the fact that someone with Oswald's background was allowed to be where he was on that fateful day. The previous school year I had done a research paper on the Secret Service. My research indicated that the Secret Service would normally have prevented someone like Oswald from being in a building along the motorcade route.
One fact that wasn't known to the public at the time was that one of the last actions taken by the CIA's predecessor, the OSS, was the killing of General George Patton.
I have no interest in pursuing this theory further I'll leave that decision up to those who are more familiar with the incident than I am.
P.S. We get our beliefs about subjects such as killers from related historical events and from fiction events in television shows and movies. The assassination of John Kennedy didn't fit the pattern of other presidential assassinations and assassination attempts. Presidents Abraham Lincoln, James Garfield and William McKinley were all killed at short range. President Ronald Reagan was shot at short range. Lynette "Squeaky" Fromme tried to shoot President Gerald Ford at close range. The Puerto Ricans who attempted to shoot their way into President Harry Truman's residence wanted to get close enough to kill him.
The assassination of Kennedy fits the pattern of the assassination of Dr. Martin Luther King who was shot by paid killer James Earl Ray from concealment at a distance with a rifle. Oswald shot Kennedy from concealment at a distance with a rifle. On television and in movies professional killers. generally fire at their intended victims from concealment at a distance with a rifle
Typical presidential assassins seem to want people to know what they have done. John Wilkes Booth killed Abraham Lincoln in front of people attending a play. Professional killers usually want to get away with their crimes so they try to avoid being identified
Patsys don’t kill cops for no reason! Oswald wanted fame and 55 years later, still talking about him!
Hundreds of people know where Kennedy is going to be and line the route.
Not exactly difficult for Oswald to claim as he's going to work that day that he's carrying 'curtain rods'. Which is what he did.
And putting Oswald in a conspiracy is pure idiocy, he was a blabbermouth who couldn't shut up.
He told everyone that would listen that he shot at Walker.
He posed for pictures with his murder weapon.
Same with Jack Ruby...who you'd also have to shoot because he couldn't shut up.
And now you're blaming the CIA for MS-13? Take your meds.
He confessed he was an avowed Marxist and defected to Russia for what reason? The caviar and living the good life? He was a disgruntled little asshole who would do anything for attention. Even his own brother Robert said that! Look over his life and you will see the desperate and pathetic attempts for attention, including defection, attempted suicide, his NOLA radio interview, his attempted assassination of General Walker, and finally killing JD Tipppet. All a pattern of a sociopath.
And moving books around in a school book depository for minimum wage was the final insult.
Oswald was a mouthy little asswipe that would tell everyone that he was intended for bigger things but wouldn't actually do anything to accomplish it.
His Russian wife Marina had finally had enough of him and kicked him out. He had to show off for her too.
There is, however, one theory that is entirely dependent on Murphy's Law, detailed in the 1992 book, "Mortal Error." In summary, Oswald took a shot at JFK, and wounded him, but did not kill him (Murphy's Law). A federal agent in one of the following cars heard the shot, and leapt to his feet, grabbing his newly-issued AR15 rifle, which accidentally discharged (Murphy's Law). The light-weight, high-velocity bullet from the AR15, which you might expect to disappear to parts unknown, instead struck the same target Oswald had been aiming at - the President's brain pan (once again, Murphy's Law). It explains everything, from the different bullet wounds to the decades-long government coverup. And it is entirely compatible with the Laws of Nature.
THAT, my friends, is the ultimate explanation...
;^)
They knew at the last minute same as my own family was surprised at the last minute by Ike’s drive out of DC.
When you’re walking the street and the word is passed around that the President’s motorcade is coming, people run ad clamor.
I’m going to hint to you one last time, you have a right to your OPINION. But you tire me with your arguments because they are vapid, amateurish, unoriginal.
You’re not adding anything.
Find someone else to peddle your opinions to, like say the initiator of this thread. You got that?
Oswald was already on the 6th floor. It was his job to move books around.
And he moved them to make what he thought was a perfect little nest.
He could see and hear the crowd and then he took an easy shot and hit him twice in a convertible.
Or you can believe that its a kooky conspiracy involving the CIA, the Rothschilds, Colonel Sanders, the Queen, Francisco Franco, the Shah, Ray Kroc...
Leave me alone with this. I told you that you’re not adding anything. Everything you spout I have seen before dozens of times, it’s tiresome and annoying.
Find someone else to push your opinions on.
You need to go back and look at the counter stories. The government lies to you. It just did not start with Bill Clinton. WAKE THE FUCK UP.
For those who think LHO was not involved, how many men do you know innocently leave their wedding ring and a wad of cash on the dresser while taking a bag full of “curtain rods” to work?
You are an idiot. I never said he was not involved. You are too stupid to post to me.
“the Soviet Defense Ministry knew that U-2 planes had flown over the Soviet Union several times, but its Air Defense Command (the Voyska protivovozdushnoy oborony, or V-PVO) had not been able to track them for certain because of their ultrahigh altitude.”
Excerpt From
Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism
Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa
“The KGB recruited Oswald for ideological reasons when he was a US Marine stationed in Japan. When he insisted on defecting to the Soviet paradise, the KGB kept him there for three years and then persuaded him to return to the United States temporarily, in order to assassinate President Kennedy, who had badly humiliated Oswald’s idol Khrushchev before the whole world. During this time, Oswald was intensively indoctrinated, trained in agent communications and weaponry, given a Soviet wife who was trained to assist him, and then dispatched off to Texas. Once there, an American businessman, George de Mohrenschildt, helped Oswald settle into his new surroundings.”
Excerpt From
Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism
Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa
Tampered with ? How?
You can shoot that rifle in the time allowed. Proven time and time again.
And moving slightly downhill made the shot easier, not harder.
He was more of a Sheila, not a Patsy.
Oswald started that job before the trip to Dallas by Kennedy was announced.
They do not keep the route a secret. How would you do that and have a big parade in his honor?
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