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22 Shorty or a Knife for Self-Defense
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 3/23/2018 | J Hines

Posted on 03/23/2018 5:57:54 AM PDT by w1n1

The .22 Short was developed back in 1857 for Smith & Wesson revolver.
Created for the metallic cartridge with a 29-30 grain bullet, pushed by 4 grains of black powder.
This was mainly developed for self-defense, nowadays this cartridge has little penetration and knockdown power.
So how low in caliber should one go before your personal defense firearm is too light?
Youtuber mark3smle did some ballistic gelatin test with this .22 Short.

Overall the .22 penetrated 4 inches through a pair of pants into the gelatin. mark3smle goes onto comparing a knife penetration could do the job as well. Theres going to be different views on this.
A knife fighter with training would probably boast his skillset as superior at close range.
However, with a .22 Short you can still tactically use it without the bad guy knowing it until its too late. What do you all think?, Would you go with a .22 Shorty for self-defense? See the full 22 Shorty or knife review here.
Here's what some are saying on social media:



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To: TXnMA
Yankee Marshall, is that you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PlWnppZpb8

61 posted on 03/23/2018 3:55:16 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“In other words, the 98% number is probably low.”

It is. Other stats show a criminal shot with ANY caliber almost always stops the attack immediately.


62 posted on 03/23/2018 3:55:47 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free

“What kind of idiot lets a perp close to 20 feet before presenting his firearm. Nobody in real life.”

Go walk down a street in a city and count how many people pass within 20 feet of you. As you do it count how many MIGHT have had a gun or a knife on them. Go on, we will wait.


63 posted on 03/23/2018 3:58:03 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

(Will you check my math for me?)

A .380 will result in a one-shot stop ~70% of the time, a .45 will result in a one-shot stop ~ 90% of the time:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/h...

Therefore a .380 will result in a successful DGU 98.0 + 2.0 x 0.7 = 99.4% of the time while a .45 will result in a successful DGU 98.0 + 2.0 x 0.9 = 99.8% of the time.

99.8 - 99.4 = 0.4 for a difference of 0.4%, which is statistically insignificant.

And you still have at least six shots left to improve the odds even more.


64 posted on 03/23/2018 4:15:41 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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To: Yo-Yo
LOL! Thanks for that link!

He definitely "sings the same song" about the Seecamps as I do -- but the poor guy lacks my Texas drawl... '-)

He mentioned a "hard" trigger pull. Mine was like that, but it was due to frictional drag. I filled it with the 3M "Finesse-It" final paint ultra-polishing slurry I use on my '65 Formula "S" Barracuda -- and sat around dry-firing it for several hours. Then, I flushed it clean and sprayed the interior with dry Teflon -- and dry-fired it and worked the action for a while.

Now. the only double action I've ever fired that was a smooth as my Seecamp's was that of a many K$$ super-custom competition revolver...

The .380 Seecamp's not something you shoot for fun -- but, if you ever really need it, I guarantee you'll never notice the recoil!

65 posted on 03/23/2018 5:20:54 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias; "0bama": Allah's stooge; "Moderate Muslims": Allah's useful idiots.)
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To: OldSmaj
"Can anybody really live in Iceland?"

I'd give it a shot.


66 posted on 03/23/2018 8:09:16 PM PDT by Rebelbase ( Hillary, DNC, DOJ and FBI colluded with a British National to influence the 2016 Pres. election)
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