Posted on 02/25/2018 10:47:07 AM PST by Sean_Anthony
God's will be done
The Catholic religion inducts and celebrates its saints, and I would like to know what the holdup is regarding the late Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen (1895-1979). Why is he not yet a saint?
For those who do not know, Fulton Sheen hosted an extremely popular television show in the 1950s. A number of its episodes can be watched on the internet, so those who were born long after Fulton Sheens passing can catch a glimpse of what the man was like.
Keep in mind that in 1967, Sheen came out against our war effort in Vietnam.
They are fighting about where to bury him. NYC or Peoria IL.
As a former Roman Catholic Alter Boy, now a Christian & saint, I do know.
More importantly, I know the definition God gives in Holy Scripture and it requires none of what you refer to friend.
I think ‘miracles’ too often are used to deny the efforts and accomplishments of humans. It is as if achievement is embarrassing.
Some amazing medical procedure gets developed and people say things like, “Wow. Isn’t God wonderful?” But when something horrific happens God goes uncredited.
Are there modern day miracles? I’d like to think so. But my money is on, “No.”
The short answer is CASH...
https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2016/09/23/vatican-tightens-rules-miracles-money-sainthood-cases/
"In his book “Merchants in the Temple,” Italian journalist Gianluigi Nuzzi charged the congregation was among the most reluctant Vatican offices to cooperate with new transparency measures imposed as part of Francis’s project of Vatican reform, and asserted that the average cost of a sainthood cause was about $550,000."U.S. Catholic officials traditionally have used $250,000 as a benchmark for the cost of a cause from the initial investigation on a diocesan level, to a canonization Mass in St. Peter’s Square at the Vatican, though that cost can increase depending in part of how many people take part in the canonization ceremony and the logistics of organizing the event.
Key word is "initial".
Many saints are manufactured by forcing them through using multiple tries, when rejected at first.
God's standard is that every believer in Christ, who has entrusted themselves to Him alone for salvation, is at that moment a saint. The Apostle Peter and Apostle Paul address the members of the churches as saints.
I haven’t read anything by Jim O’Neil for a while, but he is a great writer and thinker. He asks great questions, but in today’s world I fear that Archbishop Sheen will not get the recognition he so rightfully deserves. I must agree with Jim. Just watching and listening to Archbishop Sheen’s videos is all one needs to recognize his saintly qualities.
I apologize if you take offense at some of my comments - I started out in the Catholic Church and never got the full message - even through the rite of Confirmation and it was many many years later that I heard the message of Christ in a way that prompted me to personally confess to Him and ask hi into my heart as my Lord and savior. I am a "non-denominational" Christian and find fault in all religions as they ere constructed by flawed men - my problem, not the problem of those who find extra comfort in their particular religious brands of Christianity. I might have more respect for religion except for so many religious figures Priests/Pastors/Bishops/a certain Pope and so many others seem to get sidetracked with political agendas and away fro the message of Christ.
God Bless and thanks for the courteous nature of your response.
bump
Just more made up Roman Cathoicism.
Saints, at least as understood in the New Testament, were those who believed in Jesus Christ. Paul so noted in writing to the churches in Ephesus, Corinth, Rome, Colossae, Philippi, and Thessalonica.
What on earth possesses the same anti Catholics to post on every obviously Catholic post? If you really know anything about Catholics, you would know they agree with your quote about all members being saints, but it’s not the same thing as a canonized saint.
You sure haven’t seen me posting on every damn post about Billy Graham disparaging his religious beliefs, and I’m pretty damn tired of your (and some others) anti Catholic BS. And don’t make an attempt to deny it, you same handful post on every Catholic post that isn’t marked Caucus, you have that right, but that doesn’t make it proper.
and if you can’t spell ‘altar boy’ you likely weren’t one!
Heh. I noticed that, too. Can you imagine what it would be like if there were no caucus function? And why not an atheist caucus?
I usually don’t comment on your posts against bloggers, but that right there—and I don’t care who you are—was funny!
The atheist caucus is over on DU and Huffpost! Pretty much the whole thing!
One of many errors in your cut-and-paste polemic. If this were so, what is "All Saints Day" celebrating?
Every glorified human being in heaven is a saint. A few of them, because they are known to have led lives of heroic virtue, are commended to the church for public commemoration and veneration, not worship. These are the canonized saints. That veneration is without prejudice to the millions of other saints whose names we may not know. Those saints are the ones commemorated on All Saints Day.
And by the way, a "prominent bishop" can't canonize or beatify someone on his own initiative, either.
You think there are no conservative atheists?
Sorry, I don't know a single "anti-Catholic".
If you really know anything about Catholics, you would know they agree with your quote about all members being saints, but it’s not the same thing as a canonized saint.
I understand that canonization is a perversion of God's Word. I pointed out the reality. If it troubles you to have a discussion like this, there are caucus threads. Open threads are for discussion.
You sure haven’t seen me posting on every damn post about Billy Graham disparaging his religious beliefs
I'm fine with any discussion point you want to bring. Fear no truth.
and I’m pretty damn tired of your (and some others) anti Catholic BS.
Perhaps a nice Caucus Thread is where you should be? This thread is an open thread for discussion. You are discussing right now. It is your right.
Hey, I was a kid. That's how I spelled it. 😊
an "alter boy" is a girl, an altar bot serves at Mass. leaving the Catholic Church was a really bad idea.....sigh.
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