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I have 2 questions to ask everyone. First: do you think this year's flu is the worst in the past decades? 2nd: Do you think a flu medication should cost 116 dollars?
1 posted on 02/12/2018 5:44:04 PM PST by Armen Hareyan
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To: Armen Hareyan

The generic is half the price.

It is priced at what the market can bear.


2 posted on 02/12/2018 5:46:00 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Does Tamiflu actually work and is your life worth more than 116 dollars?


3 posted on 02/12/2018 5:46:05 PM PST by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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Even Tamiflu's propaganda (https://www.tamiflu.com/taking-tamiflu) says to take it within 48 hours of onset.

There's no reason to think it would have helped her since she fell ill on Monday and was diagnosed on Wednesday.

4 posted on 02/12/2018 5:46:56 PM PST by aposiopetic
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This story sure has made the rounds on socialist networking sites for the past 4 days.

Was her death an injustice? Was it self inflicted?

Is the press more interested in messaging than that someone died?


5 posted on 02/12/2018 5:47:23 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Ask a lib if Alger Hiss colluded with the Russians.)
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Just because the big-government/big-Pharma criminal complex offers to sell you a cure for the “flu” does not mean they actually have one.

The only important thing to them is that you fork over your money.

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20121114/does-tamiflu-work-questions-continue#1


6 posted on 02/12/2018 5:47:35 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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3. How does the flu cause septic shock?

Or did she acquire that in the hospital?

7 posted on 02/12/2018 5:48:04 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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She was a teacher and couldn’t afford 116 dollars..I feel sorry for her and her family but really..what was her hourly wage, 50 cents an hour?


8 posted on 02/12/2018 5:48:54 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Armen Hareyan

My bet is that the packaging costs more to make than the Tamiflu.


9 posted on 02/12/2018 5:48:58 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Armen Hareyan

I think Tamiflu is helpful for some especially in making the symptoms more bearable, but to say a healthy 38 year old woman was an idiot for declining to pay for it is a reach.


11 posted on 02/12/2018 5:50:05 PM PST by ichabod1 (People don't want to believe it be what it is but it do.)
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“Her husband bought the Tamiflu medicine for $116 (£84) a day before she went to hospital, but it was too late.

Experts think the current flu outbreak may be one of the worst in US history.”

US teacher dies after opting out of ‘costly’ flu medicine

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43039036

I would like to make two points:

1. People spend a lot of money on cell phones, internet, etc., but don’t want to spend money on life-saving medication. It’s a choice.

2. The husband did buy her the medicine and she died anyway — it was a really bad flu and apparently Tamiflu was not able to help.


12 posted on 02/12/2018 5:50:54 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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We don’t know the details but she had both a job and a husband. Presumably. The medicine was obtainable for her. ( and I know of no country health department or hospital that would deny such treatment in case she really couldn’t come up with a hundred bucks herself). It’s very foolish to play games with influenza, it CAN kill. And does at times. And has killed many thousands over the years. It so sad to hear of a death when it probably was preventable. But short of medicating her by force — ? She made a bad decision is all we can say. Pray for her


13 posted on 02/12/2018 5:51:03 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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She suffered a septic shock and died Sunday morning, leaving her 10 and 7-year-old children orphaned, according to local media.

The victim of the disease was described by her husband as a "passionate woman, who devoted all her life to helping others, and loved by children".

How does her husband feel about the orphaned children?

14 posted on 02/12/2018 5:51:19 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (The revolution will not be televised (at least, not by CNN).)
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I thought Obamacare was supposed to fix this.


16 posted on 02/12/2018 5:52:28 PM PST by Brilliant
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I don’t want to judge her or her family. They are already in pain. I feel sorry for this situation. Very sorry. It’s a tragedy.


17 posted on 02/12/2018 5:53:58 PM PST by Armen Hareyan (drug shortages, healthcare)
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Here in Atlanta, GA we are getting barraged with news media report of the widespread (at least they avoid the word “epidemic”) flu outbreak. Every outlet is hollering, “Get the flu shot. Get to the doctor”.

I work in IT and we are out and about doing office/home calls everyday, six days a week.

There is no one that is talking about this on a personal level of them, family members, or friends being ill with the flu. If it was an outbreak there would be such talk.


18 posted on 02/12/2018 5:54:17 PM PST by Wiz-Nerd
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I have 2 questions to ask everyone.

Are you going to come back and read the answers?

19 posted on 02/12/2018 5:54:20 PM PST by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: Armen Hareyan

Pneumonia ?


22 posted on 02/12/2018 5:58:23 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: Armen Hareyan

Felt sick on Monday. Diagnosed with flu on Weds and prescribed Tamiflu on Weds. Decided it was too expensive. Then took it on Thurs.
She went into septic shock.

Did Dr. mis-diagnosed symptoms ? The flu can cause septic shock.
Tamiflu is most effective within 72 of exposure. Tamiflu could also have cause the septic shock.

What’s the point of this story ? ( rhetorical )


23 posted on 02/12/2018 6:00:07 PM PST by stylin19a (Best.Election.of.All-Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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How many people die from taking prescription medicines every year?


24 posted on 02/12/2018 6:01:23 PM PST by MarvinStinson
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“First: do you think this year's flu is the worst in the past decades? 2nd: Do you think a flu medication should cost 116 dollars?”

It's really unclear at this point whether this is the worst, and not everyone who is getting the flu are getting the same stain. It does seem to have high virulence, though. Regarding the cost of flu medication, I think there are two separate questions about cost. The first is “is it worth the $116?”. My answer is yes, if it gives a reasonable chance of not dying. This poor women is leaving behind a husband and two young children. You can't put a price on these children having their mother. That said, it also has to be kept in mind that the efficacy of Tamiflu is not universally subscribed, and to be effective it is thought that it needs to be started within the first 48 hours of symptoms. Even with those vagaries, I still think that the price is worth it if you are at risk and there is a reasonable assumption that you will be helped.

The second question is “does the cost of R&D and production warrant the price of this medication?”. That's a much tougher one to answer. The wholesale price is substantially lower, so it would seem that the price is being hiked because there is an increase in demand. I have no problem with pharmaceutical companies making money, but just like being gouged by stores during a hurricane etc., it is wrong to price gouge people in need.

26 posted on 02/12/2018 6:03:40 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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