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Is there a website that breaks down social spending and taxes paid?

Posted on 02/02/2018 2:03:12 PM PST by Jonty30

I'mn trying to find a website that breaks down how much blacks receive, as a community, compared with the taxes they pay, as a community.

I did have a figure of approximately $21 trillion dollars since the end of the Civil War, but I can't substantiate that. Mathwise, it's not a lot when you break that number by the number of blacks that have lived, or living, since 1865 and spread it over 150 years. It works out to be only about perhaps $2,000/yr, so it's a credible number.

I just can't support it.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Government; Society
KEYWORDS: incometaxes; pigford; taxcutsandjobsact; taxreform; tcja
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1 posted on 02/02/2018 2:03:12 PM PST by Jonty30
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I’m just trying to establish that reparations are being paid, even if blacks currently reject what they are receiving as reparations.


2 posted on 02/02/2018 2:05:22 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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“Mathwise, it’s not a lot when you break that number by the number of blacks that have lived, or living, since 1865 and spread it over 150 years. It works out to be only about perhaps $2,000/yr, so it’s a credible number.”

While you are at it, why don’t you break down the amount of social spending on whites since 1865?


3 posted on 02/02/2018 2:07:00 PM PST by Joe Dallas
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To: Jonty30

http://usdebtclock.org for starters.

Heritage and CATO may have data you’re researching.


4 posted on 02/02/2018 2:07:21 PM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Jonty30

“I’m just trying to establish that reparations are being paid, even if blacks currently reject what they are receiving as reparations.”

Let’s suppose that social spending on blacks will be considered to be reparations.

Now, what would you call social spending on whites?

by your logic, it would be free money.


5 posted on 02/02/2018 2:10:08 PM PST by Joe Dallas
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To: Jonty30

The underreported scandal - “Pigford.”

Fraud was endemic to the claims process — for example, every apartment in a New York City building received a settlement of at least $50,000. Further, some families received checks of $50,000 for each family member .

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/06/pigford_the_unexamined_obama_administration_scandal.html


6 posted on 02/02/2018 2:18:51 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Joe Dallas
“I’m just trying to establish that reparations are being paid, even if blacks currently reject what they are receiving as reparations.” Let’s suppose that social spending on blacks will be considered to be reparations. Now, what would you call social spending on whites? by your logic, it would be free money.

yeah that's a good point but I bet blacks have received way more social spending versus the amount paid to the government than whites.

7 posted on 02/02/2018 2:21:16 PM PST by Cubs Fan (Trump is all that stands between America and left wing totalitarianism)
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The time period in question should begin when other than wealthy had to pay income taxes. 1913, I think. So 105 years, not 150.


8 posted on 02/02/2018 2:23:12 PM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Jonty30
I’m just trying to establish that reparations are being paid, even if blacks currently reject what they are receiving as reparations.

Intesresting idea., It will be difficult. So best of luck, but if you find the amnswer I hope you post it

In the meantime-- I am in favor of all living former slaves to receive reparations. and I am in favor of all living former slaveowners to pay them these reparations.

As far as heritability of guilt based on skin color, they can kiss my ***

9 posted on 02/02/2018 2:26:27 PM PST by Cubs Fan (Trump is all that stands between America and left wing totalitarianism)
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Here’s a start.

Food Stamps in Owsley County, Kentucky

43.8% of the population is on Food Stamps (SNAP)

0.0% of the population is Owsley County is black.

https://statisticalatlas.com/county/Kentucky/Owsley-County/Food-Stamps


10 posted on 02/02/2018 2:31:26 PM PST by Joe Dallas
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It's 21 trillion since the "war on poverty" which began ~1965.

We have spent 21 trillion on welfare and other "great society" programs since 1965.

11 posted on 02/02/2018 2:32:54 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Joe Dallas

I’m saying that, as an average for the community, whites have been paying reparations and blacks have been receving it. I’m not dealing with individual cases.

My purpose in this is to show the risk that blacks are creating by pushing this foolishness and could cost them dearly because whites, Asians, and Latinoes may end up deciding that pay as you go is preferential.


12 posted on 02/02/2018 2:40:12 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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Even Obama, the Clintons, and Bernie Sanders did not push reparations for slavery. They push social welfare programs but nobody credible calls it “reparations.”


13 posted on 02/02/2018 2:43:53 PM PST by iowamark
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This link is along the lines of what you are studying.

The Racial Tithe

http://allrightforum.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-racial-tithe-by-ryan-faulk.html


14 posted on 02/02/2018 2:46:23 PM PST by Az Joe (Gloria in excelsis Deo)
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To: iowamark

But it is that, even if they wouldn’t call it that.


15 posted on 02/02/2018 2:46:54 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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You can add up all the amounts over 100 or 150 years, but what does it mean?

A dollar 100 years ago was worth $10 today.

So most of your mathematical total will come from the last 30-40 years, with all that high inflation.

That’s why accountants use a trick called “the present value of money” to add amounts over different years - basically you gotta adjust up all the older numbers. There’s tables out there to say what the inflation over the years adds up to.


16 posted on 02/02/2018 2:47:57 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: Jonty30

So you have no problems with social spending on whites?


17 posted on 02/02/2018 2:48:54 PM PST by Joe Dallas
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To: iowamark

That is how Democrats operate. They work to achieve the objective, without directly telling people what they are doing. If the Democrats had pushed the exact same programs and spending and called them exactly what they are, those programs would not exist today. They just keep using double speak.


18 posted on 02/02/2018 2:49:44 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Joe Dallas

I do have problems with government spending on social programs. We are essentially paying a premium price on mediocre outcomes.

I believe everything social spendingwise can be done better through the church. The church is surprisingly power when they aren’t hampered by government.


19 posted on 02/02/2018 2:51:12 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30
I'mn trying to find a website that breaks down how much blacks receive, as a community, compared with the taxes they pay, as a community.

Welfare benefits are actually pretty skimpy, on a per person basis. Spending for government schools, government employees, Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, dwarf welfare payments; but those go mostly to white people.

20 posted on 02/02/2018 2:52:22 PM PST by iowamark
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