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WENT TO SEE "WIND RIVER"

Posted on 09/04/2017 10:11:13 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

Good flick. Couldn't get past the political statements once again. The hopelessness of life on indian reservations, federal indifference, and the final statement where there are no records kept of those missing women. It's our fault.

The bad guys were federal contract security employees, gang banging drunks working on the reservation. No women around except the unfortunate one. The good guys were other gov't employees. The drug use and living in squalor was emphasized. Joe Bobb says check it out.


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To: gibsonguy

Please see Post 19, gives some insight about the situation.

The depressing air you speak of I find to be a direct result of generations of entitlement.


21 posted on 09/04/2017 11:50:04 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: DIRTYSECRET
I like Jeremy Renner and I like this writer / director. He did Sicario and wrote Hell or High Water too. Will definitely see it.
22 posted on 09/04/2017 11:56:32 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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“Longmire” series on Netflix...more for your money.


23 posted on 09/04/2017 11:59:25 AM PDT by Dust in the Wind (U S Troops Rock)
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To: Skywise
The only thing that saves the movie is Jeremy Renners performance and the police chief (I’ve loved him in everything he’s done) otherwise skip it.

Graham Greene. He played a similar roll in Thunderheart with Val Kilmer about 25 years ago.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0105585/

24 posted on 09/04/2017 12:02:39 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( "If fascism ever comes to America, it will be called liberalism." --Ronald Reagan)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

It was a political staement. A series of them That’s what Hollywood does.

I go to check on them. See what they’re up to

There’s also a story in there trying to get out. It would have been a great flick the premise was good. Renders character good. FBI agent getting a clue was good. The details on the crime reenactment so drawn out for more brainwashing and is disturbing plus stupid -like no that doesn’t really happen as in people don’t really go into the basement to check out a noise when they know a chainsaw murderer is on the property


25 posted on 09/04/2017 12:03:47 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Hulka

That’s right. Remember the Micronesians? We “compensated” them for using their islands for testing. Meaning we poured money and goods on them and within one generation they were ruined. Drunk, depressed and hopeless.


26 posted on 09/04/2017 12:10:54 PM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Rummyfan

This is a really good movie, and an entertaining one. Saw it yesterday.

There is no SJW stuff here. Villains are white, but so are the heroes.

Some of the comments of this thread about the socialist programs for Indians (similar to Democrat-urban-ghetto strategy) are accurate; but, that has nothing to do with the movie.

Sheesh ... sometimes you just have to enjoy entertainment without obsessing about its political messages. Leave that approach for the miserable Leftists, unless a piece is just too obnoxious—in which case it cannot be entertaining.


27 posted on 09/04/2017 12:16:05 PM PDT by Disestablishmentarian
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To: gibsonguy

The reservation system and what you just cited with the Micronesians were microscopic experiments of the consequences of welfare. We then go and apply the same “solution” to urban America, guess what we got the same result! Again we didn’t learn and now are applying that solution to rural and semirural America. What do you think we are seeing! Same old! Same old!


28 posted on 09/04/2017 12:17:37 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Dust in the Wind

Sounds like an amped-up episode of Longmire, for sure...


29 posted on 09/04/2017 12:28:27 PM PDT by Company Man (Best FLOTUS evah!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
FYI, the director wrote the screenplay for the 2016 film Hell or High Water which featured Indian casinoes as a major plot point.



30 posted on 09/04/2017 12:30:53 PM PDT by Bratch ("The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke)
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To: Company Man

Casinos are on reservations. Why not hospitals and medical clinics? Completely free market. Feds stay out. Any hospital property declares itself an indian reservation and our free market is realized. The rest can sign up for Obamacare-I’m sure they won’t. Indians could be served free as ‘rent’ payment.


31 posted on 09/04/2017 12:36:50 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: blueunicorn6

Not in Oklahoma. TRUMP Red!


32 posted on 09/04/2017 12:38:47 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Disestablishmentarian

Wife and I saw it last night. It was a pretty good rape and murder mystery, any of the inevitable social justice crapola not withstanding. The acting wasn’t bad, the scenery is beautiful (I’ve been in that part of the country many times) and the rest is the usual junk Hollywood thinks they need to put in to let the rest of us know that they are so much smarter and more compassionate than the rubes who pay to watch them.

A lesson that always bears repeating: If you want something done and done right, don’t let the Feds get involved. It will very quickly turn a cluster fudge!


33 posted on 09/04/2017 12:39:51 PM PDT by beelzepug (H,MN! WIAM? DMS!)
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To: Hulka

***And if a reservation crosses the US/mexico border ***

By any chance the Pueblos who left with the Spanish during the 1680 revolt?


34 posted on 09/04/2017 12:42:36 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Yep.

But the reservations in Montana gave us Obamacare.

The Democrat Governor Schweitzer admitted that they kept the polls open long enough on the reservations to manufacture enough votes to make Democrat Tester the US Senator.

Schweitzer also admitted to using Tribal Police to scare off Republican poll watchers.


35 posted on 09/04/2017 12:43:12 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: DIRTYSECRET

As I understand it, from Indian friends, when kids come of age, they are given checks for $35,000 by the gubmint. They buy big trucks and drugs. And live miserable stupid addicted lives thereafter.

Many people have suggested they get vouchers for some kind of higher learning or job training instead of checks, but cannot get that past the tribal councils...the bigwigs, or big feathers, if you will, profit greatly from keeping the lower-class Indians drunk and stupid. Meanwhile, casinos are ALWAYS approved and haul in at least a million per day. How much of that goes to lower-class Indians? Very little if any. Some tribes at least build addiction treatment centers, but few bother.

I got this info from a part-Indian friend whose ex wife, a purebred Indian, is a college professor and on the board of directors of the local casino. She benefits greatly from the system.


36 posted on 09/04/2017 12:48:52 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: Veto!

“.... when kids come of age, they are given checks for $35,000 by the gubmint. They buy big trucks and drugs. And live miserable stupid addicted lives thereafter. ....”

Does anybody think the result will be any different when FedGov hands out “guaranteed income” checks?


37 posted on 09/04/2017 12:56:25 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Hulka

It’s clear you have never been on a reservation and know little about them. Indians are very restricted when it comes to owning private property, and that contributes much to the situation there. There is a good book on this, called The New Trail of Tears: How Washington is Destroying Native Americans, by Naomi Schaefer Riley.


38 posted on 09/04/2017 1:19:20 PM PDT by Timmy
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To: Rummyfan

We saw Wind River today. I left with an upset stomach. We had been vacationing in Wyoming and recognized the place names.....returned last week. I didn’t think about the political aspects of the movie. It certainly reminded us how bleak winter is in some areas of the country. And that one big problem in the Indian Community is the alcohol/drug problem. When you are given the means on which to live, with no impetus to work and be productive, where does your self esteem come from? Not to mention that the genetic make-up of Indians doesn’t allow them to properly metabolize alcohol, much like Asians. Many factors go into the problems that occur on the reservations.


39 posted on 09/04/2017 4:28:02 PM PDT by originalbuckeye ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: Timmy

Several years in the Tonono Oodham nation.

They have lots of bucks dedicated to them and new facilities like hospitals and schools-—and homes.

Owning private property is a challenge mostly because of a combination of BLM policy and tribal restrictions.

Plenty of education scholarships and government set-asides.

You?


40 posted on 09/05/2017 3:30:04 AM PDT by Hulka
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