Posted on 08/14/2017 9:01:36 AM PDT by fruser1
I'm getting tired of arguing about this so figured I'd start a vanity poll. I apologize in advance if this is out of line.
Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. -Alinsky
Well its not really a yes or no question!
I believe in my Nation but I don’t hate people from other nations. I do know a person or two that believes in America and really does hate people from other Nations.
The racist left will drive the “normal” right into the welcoming arms of the racist right.
I’m think that’s not in their interests. Not near term and not long term.
I don’t get it. They are starting a fight they absolutely cannot survive, much less win.
Nevermind the fact that a good number of the people marching under those flags actually live and train here in the US.
Why do they all have multiple American flags flying on their houses?
Can’t provide an answer without knowing what the flags are.
At times I Fly my State Flag with my American Flag. I have flown my Service branch flag also and the POW flag.
I apologize in advance if this is out of line...
You lost me there. NEVER apologize. It’s a sign of weakness.
As for your Question: Does Pride and Nationalism equate to Hate and Supremacy?
Only if you’re white.
One attribute of Fascism is overwhelming and over the top nationalism. For a lot of young people (and the dumber old people), this makes all nationalism wrong. Of course, any nation that has no nationalist citizens at all will very soon perish for it is no longer a nation. It is just a bunch of people that live in close proximity and will not survive.
I’m nationalist but do not love America. It has a lot of problems, to say the least, but I believe it should stay intact and will fight for that outcome. Without it, we become anarchy.
Did you watch the video? That was who was marching. Anti-semites. Do you support them? I don’t.
I’m think that’s not in their interests. Not near term and not long term.
I don’t get it. They are starting a fight they absolutely cannot survive, much less win.
Good point. I have more sympathies with the KKK, Aryan Brotherhood and skinheads than I do with Democrats, Antifa and BLM activists.
I am a nationalist and happen to be white. I support Israel strongly. So do you have problem with that? Again what is your point?
Did Altura take a poll?
And I’m sure the left would say that the Antifa was only 3% of those protesting on their side.
So what’s your opinion of the supposed 3%? You really went them defining what you believe and support?
And the left is forcing the issue...almost forcing the choice.
I wonder...to what end?
You honestly don’t think “blood and soil” isn’t a racist chant?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGHXDZ5GIxo
Whose blood? Is yours good enough? Is mine?
Those neo nazi are nuts but if try to tie me to them i.e. pro Americans and plain ordinary nationalsits then screw you.
I get it. From their perspective this is a fight they must fight and a fight they have to win for survival. Excellent article yesterday about this kind of activism isn’t what you do to win people over. It isn’t because everyone knows it doesn’t work. This is what you do to intimidate your opponents and suppress them. This is how you show the world you are the ones in power. This is why the left supports and encourages them. They are the “boggieman” the GOP wants so you will beg them for protection. This is why why “We The People” cannot let them have the streets. If our government won’t crush them we have to. Maybe I have got something wrong here and I am sure I will shortly be disabused of my misperceptions. Right now, this is the way I see it. It is always about power. This is something that needs to be done just as surely as we need to kill 0bamacare, we need tax reform, we need a lot of things. There is much work needs doing. But we can’t neglect this piece. They have to be shown they DON’T have this power. They have to be shown they will be stood up to and crushed without mercy. I suspect if we can start to win on this front the rest will fall in line pretty well. If the Rat politicians see their shock troops in the streets are being met and defeated their obstreporous behavior will certainly be modulated.
Am I advocating violence? I am certainly advocating violence as a tool to defeat violent people. If the government won’t use it’s legitimate force to combat this violence I don’t know of another way of ending it. As observed before, violence is not the end of politics, just “politics by other means”. Antifa simply has to be crushed or we need to start looking for another country. I don’t think we are welcome anywhere else and we are becoming increasingly unwelcome here.
In other words don’t tie me, I consider myself a nationalist, to Nazi groups or white “supremacists”.
I guess I’m going to have to type it out slow. In big letters.
The OP’s question was “Does Pride and Nationalism Equate to Hate and Supremacy”. Supposedly in response to the events of this weekend.
Well the neo-nazi’s are who marched this weekend. The video lays it out. Do I support Nationalism? Absolutely. Do I support them? No way.
Then you condemn the marchers. Because thats who marched. The video is plain evidence of it.
I refuse to let the BSM propaganda inform my opinions. Seems to me Antifa needs to be crushed. Right now these alt right kids are the only ones stepping up to the plate. As long as they are willing to do what needs doing I say they deserve our support. Sure, I would rather see Trump mobilize an Infantry Division and the DOJ but that ain’t happening. I suspect that most freepers are like me. Beating on people with sticks in the street ain’t in my skill set. When it gets to where my skill set is in play then I may have to consider joining them.
I'm Proud of my Heritage, first as a natural born American, but also as a Norwegian/Irish/Ukrainian.
My Race/Species is h. sapiens sapiens. And some of ya’all make me question the fitness of our species to exist.
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