Posted on 06/11/2017 5:16:57 AM PDT by NOBO2012
From Democratic National Committee Chair Tom Perez to California Democratic Party Chair John Burton to New York State Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, cussing has become the new norm of communication with their tribe. Some speculate that they are simply reflecting frustration over losing the election. Not so: despite claims to the contrary, that is who they are.
They own the coarsening of our culture that brings us to this point in time. So coarsened that a U.S. Senator feels perfectly comfortable connecting with her young-ish audience by letting rip with a few F-bombs, so comfortable in fact that they were scripted into her remarks.
We, on the other hand, due to the selective application of Progressive standards, are not allowed to say “pussy” (although they can even sing about it – at the White House no less) or the N-word (although blacks can and even white progs can - as long as they end it in an “a” instead of an “r”).
George Carlin bit it too soon, we’re slowly working our way through his entire list of 7 dirty words.
Full disclosure: MOTUS has dropped her share of F-bombs over time. I blame workplace hostility (mine).
Posted from: MOTUS A.D.
That’s a truism. It’s true when it’s true but there are plenty of highly intelligent people who use it. It’s a bomb dropped for its effect on people, not to elucidate a point.
Gone with the wind.
“”Nothing more vulgar and trashy than a woman who uses the F word in public or private. She can think she is as progressive as ever but in fact, she is white trash or worse.””
Sure glad to see your post. If I’d said it, I’m sure some here would have called me a prude and probably worse. There is definitely a lower class of poster here today compared to previous times. I detest that talk from any person - man or woman - public or private. I don’t know how it got to be so common place.
I grew up in the forties and graduated from high school in the mid fifties and it wasn’t a word ever heard in a classroom or hallway or on a ball field and certainly NEVER by a teacher and NEVER in my home. The guys could have used it in private but had enough respect for us girls not to use it in our presence OR near any teacher...
I disliked the movie American Sniper because of the language used by the “actress wife” of Chris Kyle. If his real wife didn’t use language like that, I’m sure she would have objected being portrayed as you mentioned - vulgar and trashy. Coming out of the movie, I remember asking my husband if he EVER remembered a movie where a female used language like that in any film. I was criticized by family and friends for my take on it. “That’s just the way people talk”. Sadly, I guess it is.
A good question and certainly a troubling one. I don’t see it being turned around in what is left of my years...
“”I asked him if he used that language with his parents, he seemed genuinely surprised that I was complaining about his choice of words.””
It is so common place - regardless of the age of the person using it - that they do not even realize they are using words that are very offensive to others. They DO stare at us like “what is your problem?”
Really glad to see that others have as much objection to this kind of language as I do. Maybe - there is hope! I hit “abuse” sometime last year because of a poster’s language. Something I had never done before or since. He took exception to my criticism of the language he used and said he hoped I would complain when others used profanity. Guess he thought I’d spend my time monitoring every thread and post... Very grown up of him...
Times have changed right in front of our eyes and not for the better, not by a long shot.
“How does the nation turn this around and convince people that our current mode is not good and that perhaps we could be better off if we emulated some aspects of ... let’s say ... the 1940s?”
A national calamity that affects everyone in the nation that leaves millions dead and forces people to turn to God for their survival.
My son is a Marine, thank you, served in Iraqi Freedom. There are also female Marines. So if a female Marine drops an f bomb- would she be repulsive, white trash person?
Unlike most posters I don’t take great offence at cursing. I posted the quote from Eleanor Roosevelt about Marines because for some reason, as people age, they tend to attribute more virtue to their own generation or older generations and tend to have selective memories. The only other explanation is that they have led very sheltered lives.
My father served in World War II and Korea. Cussing was the norm in the military. He never cussed around civilians though because they would nor could they ever understand. The most obscene thing in the world is when diplomacy fails and our leaders need to send our young sons and fathers and now our mothers and daughters off to war. I recognize war as a necessary evil but it truly is humanities greatest obscenity.
When surrounded by absurdity and true obscenity, cussing becomes almost necessary and cathartic when one is surrounded by such obscenity and its’ tragic waste of human potential.
Today, human potential is wasted all around us as a matter of policy by our own personal failures and by our leaders inane policies, many of which will lead to future wars.
The cognitive dissonance between the better angels of our nature as reflected by our ideals as espoused by our founders and by the laws of nature and the realities of our daily existence to me are leading to a similar sense of futility, as in war, in our general society and in our daily lives were what was once obscene is now cathartic and cleansing.
The last eight years of hope and change as far as I’m concerned were obscene and inane almost as if by design. When one is powerless in the short term to control the insanity around them, sometimes the best, actually, the only valid response is a good well delivered torrent of F-bombs.
There truly are much more obscene things than words.
Polished men and women who have the proper decorum in positions of power who outwardly display all the proper norms of society - the suit, power tie, flag pin, ribbon etc - but who fail to perform their sworn duties to preserve protect and defend the Constitution of the United States(...3%) and line there own pockets with the lives and wealth of their own citizens is were true obscenity begins.
Trust me. I worked in DC for years. I know obscenity when I hear/see/smell it.
IMnSHO
I see cursing, obscenity, tattoos, body piercings etc of today’s generation, which is so often criticized on Free Republic, not as the failings of individuals but as symptoms of a far greater obscenity - the failure in the most transparent way possible of our leaders to be proper role models and live by their own rules to the point that normal civilities have collapsed. To me, these symptoms are like the election of Donald Trump, one big collective FU to our “progressive” leaders on the hill. If you want progressive, we’ll give you regressive.
The short answer to your question, “So if a female Marine drops an f bomb- would she be repulsive, white trash person?”
No sir! She’d be a Marine! - Lurked_for_a_decade
I further note that we keep re-electing the same scoundrels and reassure ourselves that our representative is different from all the others.
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