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[Vanity] The CR: Another victory for Trump
EEE | 01 MAY 2017 | EEE

Posted on 05/01/2017 4:19:03 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

All of you FReepers and conservatives out there listening to smug media reports about Schumer and the Dems popping champagne corks over the Continuing Resolution (CR) need to remember who you are dealing with again. As Rush likes to say, do not doubt me.

Trump is the Jason Vorhees of business, and now politics. He didn't get to the pinnacle of success by selling himself and his supporters out for short-term gain as so many politicians do. Rather, this is what in military terms is called a tactical retreat.

In a tactical retreat, you cut your losses and regroup. This is also a "tell" in poker.

Trump has nothing to gain by fighting for spending cut crumbs within an existing fiscal year, especially when you have North Korea breathing down our backs, our military needs immediate funds, and the structural side of big government programs (Obamacare, etc) still in effect. Fighting for cuts now is the equivalent of haggling over the cheapo purple properties in Monopoly.

By signing the CR, Trump just isolated Schumer and put the RINOs in Congress on notice: Advance my priorities or face an angry conservative/populist base in 2018.

The latest CR expires perfectly right at the end of the fiscal year 2017, which means Mulvaney will set the table and outline a clean budget for the new fiscal year that will honestly addresses entitlement spending, spending on liberal special-interest programs, and even the proper role of the federal government in said programs itself.

Once that is discussed, the Republicans can own and run with the narrative, if they choose to do so. They can argue that they reached out to Dems 5 months earlier and funded the government, but now it's the Dems' turn to work with Republicans on reducing the size and spending of the Federal Government.

Meanwhile this spring and summer, Trump can work on tax reform, repealing Obamacare, and getting the states more involved in policies. Also this takes away the shutdown card from the Dems. It will not have as much as an impact in September because the budgetary process will be returned to normal in September.

Of course, if there is another CR or if Republicans give away the store and continue the status quo, then yes I'll be red-hot too. But for now I'm willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt, because he's got his plate full and needs to get more of his picks confirmed and prepare for an upcoming 2nd SCOTUS vacancy. That also removes leverage from the Dems on blocking such a pick.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: 115th; 8dchess; federalspending; ibtz; rinos; trump45; vanity
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To: Cementjungle

You can post Charlie Brown in September if they’ll cave. I’ll be right with you raining fire and brimstone on the Republicans. In the meantime, this is just practical commonsense if you’re Trump.


41 posted on 05/01/2017 5:07:58 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Man-made global liberalism is killing the planet)
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To: MaxistheBest
Just as I figured...you got nothin!!!

How old are you, seriously? This is the kind of thing I used to hear at recess in grade school. I want the politicians I elect to fulfill the main planks in their platform. If they can't do it at the very beginning of a new administration, if they can't even fight for it when they are strongest, the odds of it ever getting done go way down. And you come back with "well, what would you do, smart guy". Childish.

How about calling your Reps and Senators? Could you do that? Naw...you just want to rant and rave.

Yeah, I could. And I have. And that's all I can do. The politicians who we elected actually need to do their jobs. That's not ranting nor is it raving - it's expecting results from politicians instead of making ridiculous excuses for them. The GOP rolled over and took out all language for the border wall. It took half the funding for border security that it initially asked for. It accepted a 1% reduction on the EPA's budget after starting with a 30% cut. Which one of those great accomplishments has you so eager to run to their defense?
42 posted on 05/01/2017 5:08:15 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Caipirabob
Allow me to share my perspective: Dear Jesus, thank you, thank you, thank you again that Hillary did not win.

Her budget probably would have looked pretty much the same as this one.

43 posted on 05/01/2017 5:10:44 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Fantasywriter

Even if the wall starts being built it will be tied up in “environmental courts” for years. Plus all the protesting, and sabotaging.

I am highly skeptical that we will get the wall.


44 posted on 05/01/2017 5:10:45 PM PDT by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

You misspelled “19th”

(ducks and runs for cover)


45 posted on 05/01/2017 5:11:00 PM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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To: PlateOfShrimp

I keed, I keed, lady Freepers!


46 posted on 05/01/2017 5:11:36 PM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Trump best chance at "getting his way" was right after winning the election, he has very little chance of getting more then a face saving token wall funding before an 2018 election.

The Democrats now know that Trump caves under pressure and you can bet the farm that they will put on a great deal of pressure during budget talks.

This CR represents every thing trump campaigned against. It is a complete sellout of his base. I know it is not the CR trump wanted but he needs to be seen fighting for his agenda not caving to the RINOs and Rats.

Well at least Sessions his doing his job and hopefully the new SC judge will turn out to be a conservative and not another Roberts. So I don't regret my support for Trump. I just hate to see him throw his presidency away. IMHO that's what will happen if he signs the CR. His base of supporters will turn on him and then he's finished. He will be seen as either weak (caving to the Democrats) or as a con man that broke most of his campaign promises.

Of course NK could change everything. But that is a very risky strategy.

48 posted on 05/01/2017 5:13:23 PM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I think this is a reasonable vanity, EEE. I am also amazed at how many people are eager to jump on Trump as a bad guy when he hasn’t even been there four months!

He didn’t get to be a billionaire overnight. Things take time, especially big things and it is even tougher when you’re working with people not used to winning (congressional Republicans).

Larry, do you have any thoughts on EEE’s analysis?


49 posted on 05/01/2017 5:16:26 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: FreedomStar3028

Yes, it’s too bad Obama still runs the EPA. Trump doesn’t stand a chance.


50 posted on 05/01/2017 5:17:53 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: MaxistheBest
give us your plan for how Trump should proceed

Veto this CR and let the RINOs and Rats over ride the veto, which they will then the establishment pigs will own it and hopefully get primaryed and lose.

51 posted on 05/01/2017 5:19:32 PM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All
"The 17th Amendment was the beginning of the end."

That amendment effectively repealed the whole Constitution imo.

52 posted on 05/01/2017 5:19:52 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: jpsb

Veto this CR and let the RINOs and Rats over ride the veto, which they will then the establishment pigs will own it and hopefully get primaryed and lose.


Do you work for Amnesty Ryan? He’d like nothing better than seizing the beltway agenda from POTUS as you propose.


53 posted on 05/01/2017 5:22:57 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: lodi90
Do you work for Amnesty Ryan? He’d like nothing better than seizing the beltway agenda from POTUS as you propose.

And that is exactly what Ryan just did with this CR. Trump has the people, he should go over Ryan head ask the people to shutdown the DC phone lines until he gets funding for the wall. He signs this CR then he owns it too.

54 posted on 05/01/2017 5:32:01 PM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

When folks go on vacation they will not tune into the fake media.
Trump will spend the summer handing out pink slips.

Folks will come back, take their kids to school, and learn a Trump Government has been running just fine with 30 % less people, and education sent back down to the States


55 posted on 05/01/2017 5:43:41 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: jpsb

‘the establishment pigs will own it and hopefully get primaryed and lose.’

You can’t seem to grasp that the election is not next mo. This is a CR. Trump gets to submit two actual budgets before the next election. If they successfully advance his agenda, this CR will be forgotten water under the bridge by Nov. 2018.


56 posted on 05/01/2017 5:48:56 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

“You can’t seem to grasp that the election is not next mo”

They just don’t get it...they have no idea what political capital is and how it’s used. All they want is shoot, shoot...fire, fire...charge, charge!!! Damn, I’m tired already:) What bugs me is the MSM is running this as a defeat for President Trump, and these people around here are going right along with it.

When I first came around here, I thought most people here were politically savvy...turns out I was very wrong...never seen so many, get so whacked out, so quickly, over nothing at all.


57 posted on 05/01/2017 5:55:53 PM PDT by MaxistheBest (...)
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To: MaxistheBest

+1

The hysteria since Trump was sworn in—right here, on this site—has had to be seen to be believed. It’s as if people were ready to panic over Trump breaking all his promises before he even took his hand off the Bible.

In fairness, conservatives are used to being betrayed. Plus, the Trump haters have been chanting since Trump entered the primaries that he wouldn’t keep any of his promises. The easily frightened believed much of what they heard, so confirmation bias is at work.

Trump makes deals. That’s what he does. He made a deal with voters. He said, put me in charge, and here’s what I’ll do.

He never promised to do it all in 100 days. But God willing, he’ll have enough done by midterms to give the Democrats heartburn and fits, by turns.

Then he’ll have two more years to do the rest. In the meantime, it would be nice if the panic-button-pushers could ease off a little. Their gloom and doom isn’t helping anyone—least of all themselves.


58 posted on 05/01/2017 6:12:31 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Sounds like the purple kool-aid is flowing by the truck load.


59 posted on 05/01/2017 6:36:02 PM PDT by Trumpnado2016
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Ryan is incompetent incontinent and McConnell is in the witness witless protection program.

FIFY.

60 posted on 05/01/2017 7:00:43 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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