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Men not marrying? How deep does "the problem" go?
YouTube ^ | March 15, 2012 | Karen Straughan

Posted on 04/23/2017 3:45:20 PM PDT by grundle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlvMAS_20K4

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: feminism; genderwars; marriage; mgtow
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To: Fred Hayek

And that is very understandable.


421 posted on 04/24/2017 12:35:25 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

I have read the responses to this thread in their entirety. It is so very true that one cannot expect more than he or she is willing to give. Here is a perspective though. A thousand women ages 20-35 were shown a thousand random pictures of men in the same age range. Fully 80% of these men were rated as below average in attractiveness. If you put the guys in a new Mercedes the opposite would have been perceived.


422 posted on 04/24/2017 12:58:07 PM PDT by rsobin
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To: huldah1776

Psychological, emotional and verbal.


423 posted on 04/24/2017 12:59:14 PM PDT by gogeo (When your life is based on a false premise...you are indeed insane.)
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To: gogeo

Since emotions are reactions to input, verbal or any other bodily communication (80%), I put it all under psych. :)

Care should be taken with the whole person you have become one with, heart, soul, body, and mind, since you are actually taking care of yourself when you do so, yes?


424 posted on 04/24/2017 1:13:42 PM PDT by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: baltimorepoet

You have read the books I have been reading. :)


425 posted on 04/24/2017 1:57:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: metmom

Men didn’t use it nearly so much in mixed sex discourse then.And sure, women should be able to do everything that mend. Like Caitlyn Jenner.


426 posted on 04/24/2017 2:05:33 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: rsobin
It is so very true that one cannot expect more than he or she is willing to give.

A lot of people miss that.

Fully 80% of these men were rated as below average in attractiveness. If you put the guys in a new Mercedes the opposite would have been perceived.

I don't doubt.

One of the problems with the whole looks thing is that advertising has set the bar so high that probably one in thousands of people can make that without much work. And people have been conditioned to expect that they should be the one to get the good looking one, and it seems to be especially pervasive among men who flirt with young attractive girls and the guys look like derelicts and then they take offense when they get snubbed.

Sure, any person wants to marry attractive, but only a few will every really be able to do it.

That said, it behooves both men and women to try and look their best. For the men who complain about what older women look like as they age, they can set the example and make sure the same complaint isn't made against them.

You want your woman to look good for you, look good for her.

427 posted on 04/24/2017 2:09:20 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: arthurus

Well, I still appreciate it when a man apologies for using profanity in my presence.

The gutter mouth never worked for me from men or women and while I’ll use some choice words if I stub my toe at 2 AM, it’s not a regular part of my vocabulary.


428 posted on 04/24/2017 2:13:24 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

I have watched this crap go down over and over again. It is one reason that young men don’t marry. The other, major, reason is the biological one. Sex is free and easy. Why marry and limit yourself? By the time a young man decides he really would benefit from being in a stable household, the women are past it. They are used to being single and that stable household is problematical thereby. It all goes back to legal and cheap birth control. It has given us an electorate with a female perspective- single women vote differently from married women. Single women vote for the candidates who will be their surrogate husband, provide for them and protect them, and make everyone be nice.


429 posted on 04/24/2017 2:15:38 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: caww

God gives His children special gifts. Yours is a sweet and encouraging nature. It was a pleasure reading your lovely post. Thanks.


430 posted on 04/24/2017 4:15:31 PM PDT by Kalamata (Bannon/Miller 2024!)
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To: Kalamata
Young people need to be praying for the one God will bring into their life one day......and the discernment to identify them when they arrive!
431 posted on 04/24/2017 4:53:30 PM PDT by caww
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To: metmom
“And just what do men expect out of women? From the comments on this thread, especially the ones about the foreign women, it seems like men just want someone who will be totally submissive to them and wait on them hand and foot.”

No, I don't read that in a single comment. Please point that out to me, if it's even possible.

We are not looking for someone who is “totally submissive to them and wait on them hand and foot.” My wife has a high-end math degree. She loves me and I love her. We are both conservative Protestant Christians. We enjoy doing things for each other and we get along very well together.

I know you are a Christian and you post many threads in the Religion forum. You can understand what I and others are saying here. We want to be with someone who is our best friend.

You don't expect your best friend to wait on you “hand and foot.”

432 posted on 04/24/2017 5:04:59 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Yaelle
You sound like my wife, who is wonderful. I am sorry you have had the men you've had in your life, but I am really glad you have sons. 😀
433 posted on 04/24/2017 5:40:37 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: metmom
Metmom, there is not a single guy on this thread so far saying that women need to be “roughed up.”

These men were not talking about you in their earlier comments. It was their own understandings from their experiences or from what they witnessed.

You are better than this, Metmom. You're normally pretty cool.

434 posted on 04/24/2017 5:46:09 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Mears

You are most certainly correct, Mears.


435 posted on 04/24/2017 5:59:18 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: metmom

Sex before marriage defiles both sexes, equally.


436 posted on 04/24/2017 6:05:57 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Secret Agent Man

Actually, you need to watch “Fresh Off The Boat,” a delightful look at a Taiwanese family where the dad is a super great guy and the wife is the difficult one.


437 posted on 04/24/2017 6:10:34 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: DesertRhino; metmom

I agree with what you just said, DesertRhino.


438 posted on 04/24/2017 6:19:52 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: caww

I’m sorry about your prior relationship breaking up. It is always terrible for relationships to go sour.

Congrats on finding your way to a decent comfort zone.


439 posted on 04/24/2017 6:33:33 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: caww

You are likely right, but a good marriage is far better than being alone.

All men would grow to understand this if they could witness it.


440 posted on 04/24/2017 6:44:00 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticides, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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