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How the United Passenger Suckered Us
Canada Free Press ^ | 04/15/16 | Michael Fumento

Posted on 04/15/2017 6:22:19 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony

But part of the phenomenon long precedes YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and social media dictating the news. It's the American cult of victimization

You’ve been snookered folks! By that poor elderly doctor who was involuntarily dragged from his seat, had his face smashed in, and was beaten unconscious by the evil airport security at the behest of United Airlines.

Because there’s no evidence any of that was true. It was in fact a premeditated temper tantrum gone viral, comprising one 69-year-old Vietnamese-American David Dao, a medical doctor who lost his license, planning a lawsuit from the moment United first politely asked him to give up his seat. He demanded to be dragged, did an excellent impersonation of Ned Beatty’s character in that horrific scene in Deliverance, and struck his lip on an armrest. From the many videos taken by numerous passengers, obviously from numerous angles, there’s no evidence of a beating, a “serious” concussion, or bodily damage beyond that lip.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: abuse; customerassault; daviddao; lawsuit; luegenpresse; socialmedia; ual; unitedairlines; unitedthugs
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To: moehoward
-- There's an Op-Ed in the Sun Times on this calling for fully trained regular cops rather than the crash course Aviation Police squad. --

Link to the Op-Ed in case anybody wants to read it. Includes a photo of protesters in O'Hare. "Stop Brutality" "#Unfriendly skies" and "Activist Asian" are some of the sign contents.

Put all airport security in hands of Chicago police | Chicago Sun-Times | 04/14/2017

Other editorial writers slam Chicago PD fore being dishonest and using excessive force, and I'm not talking about the incorrect attribution in the Dao case.

261 posted on 04/15/2017 1:45:06 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: vespa300

If you wanted no mention of your prior, lengthy time on FR, coupled with the fact that you’re “back,” you should not have posted that info. It makes no sense to put such details out in the public domain, and then pretend that it’s somehow unusual for people to take note of them.


262 posted on 04/15/2017 1:48:52 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Locomotive Breath

>>UAL says he was boarded. When read out against the CoC, this statement is soooo going to come back to haunt them.>>>

Everyone knows UAL has backtracked. They have to because the LEFT and a few conservatives have put a target on them. They aren’t stupid. It’s settlement time.

In the meantime, the whole flying universe knows people are taken off of flights and it’s routine. Period. And if it wasn’t lawful, they would have stopped it a long time ago.

A few conservatives join the LEFT in being subject to their feelings and emotions instead of things like industry standard practice which includes removing passengers from a plane. It’s ok...I get emotional about lane splitting on my motorcycle. It’s illegal but I think I it should be ok.


263 posted on 04/15/2017 1:50:10 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: Sean_Anthony

I have flown two long round trips on United with 13 and 16 hour legs. I can tell you that you are attempting to pick up that turd by the clean end. The only thing not unpleasant or insulting about the trips was the fact that they reached their destinations and I was able to deplane. I will not get on to another UAL airplane ever.


264 posted on 04/15/2017 1:51:07 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: Snickering Hound

Rosa Parks didn’t MAKE AN ASS OF HERSELF. She also wasn’t offered $800 plus the ticket fare. She also had a VALID CAUSE to protest.


265 posted on 04/15/2017 1:51:52 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: Fantasywriter

>>>If you wanted no mention of your prior, lengthy time on FR, coupled with the fact that you’re “back,” you should not have posted that info. It makes no sense to put such details out in the public domain, and then pretend that it’s somehow unusual for people to take note of them.>>>

After two dozen condescending comments about me being a newbie......I finally decided to enlighten the brethren. Now they are just obsessed in a weird stalking way. Creepy.


266 posted on 04/15/2017 1:51:58 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: vespa300

Sure...Popular Mechanics is the 1st place that normal people go to for legal aviation/transportation advice - NOT. And you want us to take what you have to say seriously?


267 posted on 04/15/2017 1:52:09 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Fantasywriter

“Dao was calm and reasonable until they head-slammed him and injured his brain.”

You’re reading too many blogs.


268 posted on 04/15/2017 1:52:40 PM PDT by BobL (In Honor of the NeverTrumpers, I declare myself as FR's first 'Imitation NeverTrumper')
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To: BobL

>>>>Rosa Parks didn’t MAKE AN ASS OF HERSELF. She also wasn’t offered $800 plus the ticket fare. She also had a VALID CAUSE to protest.>>>>

And all the people said AMEN!


269 posted on 04/15/2017 1:53:02 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: vespa300

‘Everyone knows UAL has backtracked’

Please provide a link to this ‘backtacking.’


270 posted on 04/15/2017 1:54:06 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

>>>Sure...Popular Mechanics is the 1st place that normal people go to for legal aviation/transportation advice - NOT. And you want us to take what you have to say seriously?>>>

I do the google and there it was......Popular Mechanics. Do the google. Get on the team. LOL

https://www.google.com/#q=can+an+airline+remove+you+from+a+plane


271 posted on 04/15/2017 1:56:32 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: Cboldt
They didn't offer cash in this case. They offered vouchers. So it's an irrelevant point.

In 50 years of flying, I've NEVER heard any airline offer cash.

All you've done is shown that they had options to get one more person off the plane that they could have used but did not use.

Compensation in the form of check will be made by UA on the day and at the place where the failure to provide confirmed reserved space occurs ...

If you're suggesting that I stand up in the plane and say, I've read the CoC and I'm not getting off until you cut me a check, I would be a "disruptive" passenger and then they'd have other grounds for tossing me. But I'm sure the pilot has a UAL checkbook in the cockpit for just such a contingency.

It's always a take it or leave it offer and the crew never negotiates. I've seen people try.

Your "sue them later" option is laughable. You, I and the airlines know that no one is going to sue them for this amount of money. And that's why they strong arm you into their deal.

272 posted on 04/15/2017 1:57:54 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: marktwain

All this is true but UAL had no right, as per the contract you sign when you buy your ticket, to require a seated passenger to give up his seat. The A/C was not, in fact, overbooked. Last minute decisions to fly staff is not overbooking.


273 posted on 04/15/2017 1:58:03 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: BobL

I’ve never seen anyone wage such a losing battle against the facts.

United Airlines: New Video Suggests Dr David Dao was not “Belligerent” before Removal

https://m.mic.com/articles/174007/united-airlines-new-video-suggests-dr-david-dao-was-not-belligerent-before-removal#.FtZRCjE9O


274 posted on 04/15/2017 1:59:27 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

>>>‘Everyone knows UAL has backtracked’

Please provide a link to this ‘backtacking.’>>>

I’m sorry. If you didn’t read the CEO’s initial response and his later comments...I can’t help you. I just don’t have the time to educate everyone. Do the Google. Get on the team.


275 posted on 04/15/2017 1:59:42 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: Locomotive Breath

Nailed it!


276 posted on 04/15/2017 2:00:53 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: vespa300

United has never backtracked on stating that the plane was “boarded.” That’s just you spreading propaganda.


277 posted on 04/15/2017 2:02:38 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

>>>>I’ve never seen anyone wage such a losing battle against the facts.

United Airlines: New Video Suggests Dr David Dao was not “Belligerent” before Removal>>>>

Talk about Fantasy. Some lady says he was “no more belligerent than anyone else after a long day”...and that means he wasn’t belligerent. That’s Fantasy Island all over.


278 posted on 04/15/2017 2:04:54 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: vespa300

This has nothing to do with left vs. right. But let’s go there.

Are you saying the CoC a “living” contract? It doesn’t mean what it actually says. It says whatever UAL in its unlimited power wants it to say? Maybe there are some shadows and penumbras in there that completely alter its meaning.

I believe in the rule of law and not a rule of men. It’s a conservative value. You should check it out.

And BTW
1. Boarded a passenger - can’t backtrack
2. Made a statement - can’t backtrack - WILL show up in court.

“And if it wasn’t lawful, they would have stopped it a long time ago.”

Or maybe someone needed to make a big enough fuss to focus attention on the unlawful behavior of the airlines.


279 posted on 04/15/2017 2:06:15 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Fantasywriter

>>>United has never backtracked on stating that the plane was “boarded.” That’s just you spreading propaganda.>>>>

To say United’s CEO hasn’t backtracked, softened, walked back, etc his initial comments , his initial words about who was responsible, who didn’t handle it right, etc.......is as your screename says.....Pure “Fantasy”

Google it. Get on the team.


280 posted on 04/15/2017 2:07:32 PM PDT by vespa300
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