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How the United Passenger Suckered Us
Canada Free Press ^ | 04/15/16 | Michael Fumento

Posted on 04/15/2017 6:22:19 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony

But part of the phenomenon long precedes YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and social media dictating the news. It's the American cult of victimization

You’ve been snookered folks! By that poor elderly doctor who was involuntarily dragged from his seat, had his face smashed in, and was beaten unconscious by the evil airport security at the behest of United Airlines.

Because there’s no evidence any of that was true. It was in fact a premeditated temper tantrum gone viral, comprising one 69-year-old Vietnamese-American David Dao, a medical doctor who lost his license, planning a lawsuit from the moment United first politely asked him to give up his seat. He demanded to be dragged, did an excellent impersonation of Ned Beatty’s character in that horrific scene in Deliverance, and struck his lip on an armrest. From the many videos taken by numerous passengers, obviously from numerous angles, there’s no evidence of a beating, a “serious” concussion, or bodily damage beyond that lip.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: abuse; customerassault; daviddao; lawsuit; luegenpresse; socialmedia; ual; unitedairlines; unitedthugs
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To: BobL
Most people aren't as submissive as you.

That's your cross to bear.

241 posted on 04/15/2017 1:20:28 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2016)
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To: Sean_Anthony

I am not a lawyer so this is a question. Isn’t there a principle in contract law that states that any ambiguity in a contract benefits the party who did NOT draft it? And if that is the case would it not benefit the Dr. here?


242 posted on 04/15/2017 1:21:44 PM PDT by BizBroker ("Speaking truth to power" may only occur when liberals or Democrats are not in power.)
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To: vespa300

The simplest solution in the world is staring you right in the face. United just needs to tweak their ToS, so passengers understand the rules.

Namely, if United wants the option of kicking well-behaved, legally-boarded passengers off the plane, so as to give their seats to otherss, simply spell that out in their ToS. It’s just a matter of
telling their passengers in advance that being boarded and seated, etc., is no guarantee of remaining on the plane. If United decides they want your seat for someone else, you’re SOL. Your only choice is whether to meekly comply, or to be dragged out bleeding and brain injured.

If United spells that out in their ToS, in plain, intelligible language, all disputes end. And since you claim that’s their policy anyway, they have nothing to lose. Honesty is always the best policy.


243 posted on 04/15/2017 1:21:49 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: vespa300
Dao was already boarded. United jumped the shark.

Try again.

244 posted on 04/15/2017 1:22:27 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2016)
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To: Sacajaweau
Saw an early tape when he was screaming and running around....before he went back to his seat...no blood just crazy talk.

You have the timeline wrong.

245 posted on 04/15/2017 1:23:39 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: vespa300
No doubt in my mind that you were once, or twice, banned.

Each post confirms it.

246 posted on 04/15/2017 1:24:05 PM PDT by Thumper1960 (Trump-2016)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

‘When you want mechanical advice about your car do you call your lawyer?’

Bol!

+1


247 posted on 04/15/2017 1:25:30 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: cornfedcowboy
Apparently Mao ran back on the plane when all three police went to look for a gurney. He was left unattended.

They most likely expected him to still be unconscious when they got back with the gurney.

248 posted on 04/15/2017 1:25:55 PM PDT by Wissa (I took a little stroll to the Red Dog Saloon.)
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To: vespa300

Lacking citations of any kind and therefore completely without any foundation for the characterizations presented.


249 posted on 04/15/2017 1:26:28 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: Thumper1960

>>>No doubt in my mind that you were once, or twice, banned.

Each post confirms it.>>>>

You seem angry. Are you ok?


250 posted on 04/15/2017 1:27:19 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: Thumper1960

>>>Dao was already boarded. United jumped the shark.

Try again. >>>>

Right, because once you are on the plane, they cannot remove anyone. Never happens. This is a first!


251 posted on 04/15/2017 1:29:36 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: Thumper1960; vespa300

The party in question claims to have been on this site for ages, and now is “back.” Since the poster states he/she is a retread, we should take him/her at their word.

Of course there’s no chance the party will reveal their former ID. Wouldn’t want us to see why they were banned, you know.


252 posted on 04/15/2017 1:30:08 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: marktwain
That is a mischaracterization of what happened. The employees did not “suddenly decided they needed to travel”. They had to travel to do their jobs. Other flights depended on them getting to the destination inside federally regulated time limits. It was United who had to meet the federal regs that required the employees to travel.

And WHEN did somebody realize that they would need to transport this crew? And when SHOULD somebody have realized that a new crew would be needed?

If somebody had alerted the boarding agents BEFORE boarding, then the issue would not have occurred.

253 posted on 04/15/2017 1:31:06 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

>>>Oh yes, I get all of my legal information from Popular Mechanics instead of a law journal. Seriously? This is what you reference for legal issues? When you want mechanical advice about your car do you call your lawyer? >>>>

Yeah, Popular Mechanics only writes about engines now. Everyone knows that.


254 posted on 04/15/2017 1:31:53 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: PapaBear3625

‘If somebody had alerted the boarding agents BEFORE boarding, then the issue would not have occurred.’

+1


255 posted on 04/15/2017 1:32:35 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught owith pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Locomotive Breath
-- Nope. Read UAL's CoC. --

Rule 25 says you are entitled to CASH (technically, not CASH, but a CHECK). Relevant section reproduced here. A passenger is not obliged to settle for a stinkin' voucher.

A.5. Payment Time and Form for Passengers Traveling Between Points within the United States or from the United States to a Foreign Point

1. Compensation in the form of check will be made by UA on the day and at the place where the failure to provide confirmed reserved space occurs, and if accepted by the Passenger, the Passenger will provide a signed receipt to UA. However, when UA has arranged, for the Passenger's convenience, Alternate Transportation that departs before the compensation to the Passenger under this provision can be prepared and given to the Passenger, the compensation shall be sent by mail or other means to the Passenger within 24 hours thereafter.

2. UA may offer free or reduced rate air transportation in lieu of a check payment due under this Rule, if the value of the transportation credit offered is equal to or greater than the monetary compensation otherwise due and UA informs the Passenger of the amount and that the Passenger may decline the transportation benefit and receive the monetary compensation.

Contract of Carriage Document | United Airlines
256 posted on 04/15/2017 1:33:23 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Fantasywriter

>>>>The party in question claims to have been on this site for ages, and now is “back.” Since the poster states he/she is a retread, we should take him/her at their word.

Of course there’s no chance the party will reveal their former ID. Wouldn’t want us to see why they were banned, you know.>>>

Some of you stalkers are beginning to scare me. Let’s stick to the issue ok guys? It’s not about me. It’s about Dr. Dao and United. Going through life obsessing and paranoid is no way to go through life.

Back to Dr. Dao and United........pleeeze. Thumper is watching me already. :)


257 posted on 04/15/2017 1:35:31 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: PapaBear3625

>>>>And WHEN did somebody realize that they would need to transport this crew? And when SHOULD somebody have realized that a new crew would be needed?

If somebody had alerted the boarding agents BEFORE boarding, then the issue would not have occurred. >>>>

As Marvin Gaye said....”Right on”


258 posted on 04/15/2017 1:36:52 PM PDT by vespa300
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To: vespa300
Again, citing the Contact of Carriage claiming that certain things that are just not in there.

CoC says UAL can deny boarding. He was boarded. They violently unboarded him. Thing is, they've gotten away with breaking their own contract for so long that people who should know better don't.

UAL says he was boarded. When read out against the CoC, this statement is soooo going to come back to haunt them.

On Sunday, April 9, after United Express Flight 3411 was fully boarded, United’s gate agents were approached by crewmembers that were told they needed to board the flight.

United’s Apologies: A Timeline

259 posted on 04/15/2017 1:40:59 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath
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To: marron

I hope so.


260 posted on 04/15/2017 1:44:45 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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