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And just like that, Trump does more in Syria than obama ever did in eight years
Flopping Aces ^ | 04-07-17 | DrJohn

Posted on 04/07/2017 10:21:17 AM PDT by Starman417

Last night Donald Trump ordered an attack on Syria. In less than 100 days, Trump has taken more action against Assad than obama did in eight years. The attack was appropriate, measured and proportional. It sent a message.

To Assad and to North Korea.

Trump did not have to set a red line and then walk away from it.

President Obama’s decision to hold off on military action against the Assad regime after signaling that it was on the cards in response to last summer’s chemical weapons attack made the U.S. “appear weak,” former CIA Director Gen. Michael Hayden said on Thursday.

“My raw emotion, watching it from the outside, was just embarrassment,” he said.

“Sometimes the certainty of an action is far more powerful than the severity of an action,” Hayden told the Foundation for Defense of Democracies’ annual forum in Washington.

“We’ve made everything uncertain, which actually makes you appear weak at some times, but also then demands that when you want to appear strong, you may have to be overly severe to overcome the uncertainty. It’s just bad all around.”

It seems the evidence was slam dunk. I watched retired Four Star general Jack Keane say we had military personnel on the ground who witnessed the aircraft drop the bomb and that we have radar tracking that traced the aircraft departure from and return to this targeted airfield. This is largely confirmed here.
Syrian fixed-wing aircraft dropped chemical weapons on civilians in Idlib earlier this week, two U.S. military officials told NBC News.

The U.S. military saw the aircraft on a radar and watched them drop the bombs, the officials said. The radar soon picked up the flashes and booms in the rebel-held area of Syria.

And from the NY Times

Witnesses described how Tuesday’s attack unfolded. That morning, a network of observers was, as usual, tracking the skies to warn residents and rescuers of possible airstrikes. They spotted Syrian aircraft and sent out warnings on walkie-talkies.

Syrian Su-22 aircraft were then seen circling above Khan Sheikhoun at 6:47 a.m. and again at 6:51 a.m. One of the observers — based on long experience — believed that the planes might be carrying a chemical payload.

“Guys, tell people to wear masks,” he warned.

It remains intriguing that Syria was able to mount a chemical weapon attack as both John Kerry and barack obama assured us that all chemical weapons had been removed from Syria.

Earlier in the day Secretary of State Tillerson hinted at this:

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Thursday that “steps are underway” on an international coalition to pressure Bashar Assad from power, as President Trump was being briefed on military options for Syria – though what specific steps the U.S. and its allies might take in response to the latest deadly chemical weapons attack remained unclear.

America’s top diplomat addressed the Syria crisis a day after Trump declared in the Rose Garden that the chemical strike would not be tolerated. Tillerson pointedly said Russia should “consider carefully” its support for the Assad regime, while calling for an international effort to defeat ISIS in Syria, stabilize the country and ultimately work with partners through a political process that leads to Assad leaving power.

Asked if the U.S. would organize a coalition to remove Assad, Tillerson said: “Those steps are underway.”

One wonders where the chemical agents originated. It was suggested that Saddam moved his WMD's to Syria- by Obama DNI James Clapper:

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To: Right_in_Virginia

Slo, don’t accept them. That’s not a reason for a rocket attack.


21 posted on 04/07/2017 10:44:37 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Starman417

He managed to destroy a fragile alliance we had with Russia and Syria in jointly destroying ISIS.

Good job.


22 posted on 04/07/2017 10:46:37 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: morphing libertarian
Slo, don’t accept them

How well is that strategy working out for the West?

If you don't want a Syrian invasion, end the damn civil war.

23 posted on 04/07/2017 10:47:05 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia

If you want the war in Syria to end you have to get the Saudis to stop funding it.
They started it and fund it.


24 posted on 04/07/2017 10:55:02 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: slickdain

And now Trump made an attack helping ISIS.

Based on an ‘if.’


25 posted on 04/07/2017 10:57:18 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: RegulatorCountry

More like a creature of George Bush’s delusions of being Alexander the Great.


26 posted on 04/07/2017 10:57:41 AM PDT by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Why is Trump fighting ISIS’ fight for them?


27 posted on 04/07/2017 11:00:09 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson

How is hitting an airport reported to be the launch site for a chemical weapons attack “fighting ISIS’ fight for them?” Unless you mistakenly believe that those killed in the reputed sarin gas attack were themselves ISIS or allied with them, your statement makes no sense.


28 posted on 04/07/2017 11:04:41 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Starman417

If this is nothing more than a punitive response to Syria’s use of WMD than I can live with it. But if it’s the opening salvo to more direct involvement in Syria than I’m opposed. There is nothing there that I would consider to be worth further American blood and treasure. Obama squandered all of the work done there by us over the last 27 years so let’s leave it at that. Do any of us honestly think there’s anything there worth sacrificing one of your loved ones lives over? The Middle East is a perpetual civil war between the Shia and Sunni factions that supersedes borders, politicians and nationality. The only thing they can agree on is their hatred for non-muslims. Leave them alone to do what hey do best, at least until they threaten us and then kick ass, take names and leave with the understanding that if they threaten us again we’ll be back in force. No more nation building, playing cop or rebuilding what we destroyed.


29 posted on 04/07/2017 11:06:13 AM PDT by vigilence (Vigilence)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

No one’s going to war with Syria, least of all us.


30 posted on 04/07/2017 11:12:54 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Bombing the air strip is not ending the civil war. It is encouraging the rebels who may turn out to be worse.

If you want o stop the refugees start there first and stand up on your hind legs and claim your authority under the national security responsibility and tell a few judges to remain in their places; we can’ secure our country by judicial fiat leaving it open to hundreds of judges. Tell germany and Italy and everyone else you won’t support them taking in more.

Tell saudi arabia to open up their air-conditioned tent city to the Syrians until the war is over.

Bomb missile sites in Iran and NK and nuke development program locations and support Israel leading the attacks. that’s how you protect our country.


31 posted on 04/07/2017 11:20:11 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: MarvinStinson

“In less than 100 days, Trump has taken more action to enable ISIS than obama did in eight years.”

We’re also bombing ISIS. Example: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/isis-propaganda-chief-killed-strike-iraq-syria-border/


32 posted on 04/07/2017 11:22:39 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Starman417
"Syrian fixed-wing aircraft dropped chemical weapons on civilians in Idlib earlier this week, two U.S. military officials told NBC News.

The U.S. military saw the aircraft on a radar and watched them drop the bombs, the officials said. The radar soon picked up the flashes and booms in the rebel-held area of Syria."

33 posted on 04/07/2017 11:38:10 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Unless you mistakenly believe propaganda that Assad gassed his own people, your statement makes no sense.


34 posted on 04/07/2017 11:40:56 AM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: MarvinStinson

If Assad did not gas his own people, who did? And where did the perpetrators get the chemical weapons necessary to do so?


35 posted on 04/07/2017 12:21:04 PM PDT by Mrs_Stokke
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To: Starman417

Without Obama and Clinton destabilizing the Middle East, there would be no need for Trumps action.

Give props where they are due.


36 posted on 04/07/2017 12:42:24 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: Mrs_Stokke

Those would be good questions for you to get the answers to.


37 posted on 04/07/2017 12:56:49 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Mr. Douglas

It’s even funnier because bombing Assad was totally unproductive, misguided, and helped terrorists.

Total idiocy.


38 posted on 04/07/2017 2:59:17 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: morphing libertarian
Bombing the air strip is not ending the civil war.

Of course it's not ... in and of itself. But this changes the dynamics and sends a message to Putin that Obama really is swimming in Tahiti and Trump is in charge.

Give this a little while to marinate .. and hope for the best: this nasty, ugly civil war and all the ramifications it has for Western civilization will find its end around a negotiating table.

39 posted on 04/07/2017 3:04:08 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Perhaps you should send this information to the President.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/write-or-call


40 posted on 04/07/2017 3:06:37 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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