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That's it? They're just giving up?
Canada Free Press ^ | 03/27/17 | Dan Calabrese

Posted on 03/27/2017 7:04:20 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony

Get back to work and do your jobs, Republicans (and that goes for Trump, too).

After seven years of telling us they would repeal and replace ObamaCare at the first opportunity, the Republican House worked on it all of 63 days before apparently deciding it could not do so - despite a Republican majority in the Senate (however small) and a Republican president prepared to sign the bill.

Did they ever intend to do this in the first place?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: blogbot; blogpimp; clickbait; healthcare; obamacare; ryan; suckercare; trump
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To: Drew68

I was a Personnel Officer in the Army for awhile.

At lower level staffs, the Personnel Officer deals with medical issues.

I was introduced to the term “triage”.

In a big fight, the medical people would have too many casualties to deal with all at the same time.

The medical people set a priority for dealing with the wounded.

I came to notice that patients are always triaged.

Take care of yourself so that you can help take care of your family so that they can help take care of your neighbors so they can help take care of your city and on and on.

First, take care of yourself.

And “help take care of” doesn’t mean to become a slave to.


61 posted on 03/27/2017 8:08:10 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: joethedrummer

This is why I’ve thought we were doomed for some time, actually. In fact, since the 1970’s. Rolling back anything that helps ANYONE makes you look mean. However, to roll back to a world where we are no longer a nanny state, that is what is required, and the R side of the #uniparty proved they can not do that.

Sure, “repeal” is going to “hurt” a lot of people, but they are people the government should not have been helping. However, if you hurt them, you lose votes from the looney left. And sure, those are votes you probably would not have gotten anyway, but still, fear rules.

Austerity is painful, and the only way out of our credit induced crisis is draconian austerity - or total collapse both financially and politically.

It looks like it will be the latter. The only question is, “when?”. Maybe six months. Maybe five years.

One thing’s for sure: I feel like I’m living in Dr. Zhivago, but without the love story.


62 posted on 03/27/2017 8:13:37 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: McGavin999

Then you should be one happy camper because President Trump already signed an EO getting rid of the mandates


Unfortunately, all he did was “ask” that they not enforce them. That’s all he could do with an EO.


63 posted on 03/27/2017 8:19:11 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: mainestategop

I thought we hated conservatives now.

I feel like before we do anything, we need to figure out what Trump actually wants out of healthcare reform besides a beautiful bill that takes care of people.

What are his goals and can we support them?

Until those two questions are answered, this is a pointless exercise.


64 posted on 03/27/2017 8:20:22 AM PDT by WVMnteer
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To: ctdonath2

You bring up an interesting point. The blame has been Obama Care when in fact the problem may be state regulations for killing competition, or a combination of both.


65 posted on 03/27/2017 8:22:35 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: JBW1949

I figured you as a repeal only person. But Trump has always been a replace with something even more comprehensive but cheaper than Obama care. Government care is government care.


66 posted on 03/27/2017 8:24:07 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Mr. Douglas

Well between Trump and Hillary, I see the Trump general election vote. There are a lot of Trump supporters in the primary that apparently didn’t listen to his comments on health care. He’s always been a pro government involvement in the healthcare person. Has even thought single payer was good a time or two.


67 posted on 03/27/2017 8:26:11 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Mr. Douglas

Same thing. Until we have a democrat President which is what the republican congress really wants.

Actually it will allow Obamacare to crash on its own. It will also bite the insurance industry in the backside which is fine with me. I think the insurance industry was behind Obamacare and they don’t want it going away. Let them go bankrupt


68 posted on 03/27/2017 8:31:50 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: joesbucks

That’s why Obamacare was “needed” in the first place: because absurd regulations either _caused_ prices to rise (ex.: tort liability), or _allowed_ prices to rise (ex.: prohibition on interstate commerce) by partial monopolies. Instead of fixing the problems, which would have led to solutions for the uninsured (like catastrophic coverage), the problems were left in place and the problem “solved” by basically banning not being insured.

Despite Obamacare, numerous alternate solutions are popping up - like flat-rate doctor services, religious-exemption self-insurance via an organization, etc. Many of these could succeed if only they could reach critical mass by including inter-state coverage.


69 posted on 03/27/2017 8:34:09 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Understand the Left: "The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution.")
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To: joesbucks

Yep. That’s why I voted for Cruz in the primary. Like I said, I was a single issue voter this election. And I put my money where my mouth is. I’ve not had any health insurance since the day Obamacare became the law. Saved me many tens of thousands of dollars of after tax money because we’re old and insurance is so expensive that the 8% rule protects us from the penalty.

For me, it is a matter of principle in a sort of “give me liberty, or give me death” sort of way. Obamacare is about the most unamerican thing ever foisted on the people.


70 posted on 03/27/2017 8:38:58 AM PDT by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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To: joesbucks
But Trump has always been a replace with something even more comprehensive but cheaper than Obama care.

Which would be what exactly?

71 posted on 03/27/2017 8:41:05 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Sean_Anthony

Ryan sounded like he was giving up. Meadows said that he was still working on it.


72 posted on 03/27/2017 8:44:12 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: DoodleDawg

That has always been my question. When I’d ask, I was constantly reminded that in time he’d roll out his details and he didn’t want to give his opponents a leg up on his strategy.


73 posted on 03/27/2017 8:44:17 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: ctdonath2
The whole point was that, say, an insurer in Wyoming could cover patients in NY. That's a good thing.

For who? The insurer in Wyoming has no network of providers in New York with whom they have negotiated rates. Without that network they are at the mercy of whatever the New York provider charges. Because of that, every claim that the New York customer files will be out-of-network and will thus require a higher co-pay, a higher deductible and a lower percentage covered. It's lose/lose for both sides so why would the Wyoming company sell to the New York customer and why would the New York customer want to buy from the Wyoming insurer?

74 posted on 03/27/2017 8:45:23 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: joesbucks
You voted for a repeal and replace President.

True, but I don't think Ryan's bill was a full repeal.

75 posted on 03/27/2017 8:49:05 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: nevergore

Trump/Ryan wanted to divide the baby. FRC walked away.


76 posted on 03/27/2017 8:50:56 AM PDT by Theophilus (Repent)
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To: FreeReign

It wasn’t. But Trump supported it and worked hard to get it passed.


77 posted on 03/27/2017 8:52:47 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Sans-Culotte

Typical RINOs, voting with Pelosi but telling their donor class they are conservative.


78 posted on 03/27/2017 8:55:11 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Sean_Anthony
"This is a close as we're going to get to repealing Obamacare."

- Paul Ryan

79 posted on 03/27/2017 8:55:47 AM PDT by OKSooner (It's always loaded.)
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To: joesbucks
It wasn’t. But Trump supported it and worked hard to get it passed.

That's where he's wrong.

80 posted on 03/27/2017 9:10:14 AM PDT by FreeReign
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