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Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year
National Economics Editorial ^

Posted on 03/23/2017 11:11:16 PM PDT by Thalean

"There are 3 basic types of costs I included in this estimate.

1. Federal Expenses: $31.9 Billion

Expenses incurred at the federal level total $28.6 billion, according to the FAIR report.

This number includes things like educational subsidies ($2.1 billion), healthcare costs ($5.9 billion, of which $750 goes to Obamacare subsidies), and justice costs etc.

2. State & Local Costs: $93.3 Billion

This category includes a much broader range of expenses which I won’t go into here.

Again, you can get a sense of what this looks like by reading my cost analysis on California.

Once adjusted for inflation, as per the Bureau of Labor Statistics calculator, the US government spends roughly $125.2 billion per year on illegal immigrants.

This is slightly mitigated by the fact that migrants contribute $14.9 billion in federal, state, and local taxes (inflation-adjusted).

3. Remittances: $38 Billion

The final major category are remittances (money transferred from someone working in the US to their family abroad)...

According to Pew Research America lost $133.6 billion in remittances in 2015—$136.9 billion when adjusted for inflation.

Given that there are 40 million foreign-born American citizens, and roughly 11.1 million illegal immigrants (again, according to Pew), this means there are 51.1 million people sending remittances.

Given this ratio, we can guess that illegal immigrants send $38 billion from America every single year.

Of course, the wall wouldn’t impact illegals from a different continent who overstayed their visas, but when combined with reinvigorated border security, it would certainly help staunch the bleeding.

When all is accounted for, illegal immigration costs America $148.3 billion per year."

(Excerpt) Read more at nationaleconomicseditorial.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: borderwall; donaldtrump; illegalimmigration

1 posted on 03/23/2017 11:11:17 PM PDT by Thalean
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To: Thalean

I can see the negotiation already. “Penis Nyet o” pay us what they cost us or pay for the wall. Your call cabron.

Oh and if you can barely hear a plane if you strain your ears or see a millimeter dot in the sky that is our global hawks tracking the cartel org charts. Better not be involved partner.


2 posted on 03/23/2017 11:35:54 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools. Go Trump!)
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To: Thalean

...does that 148 billion include the kickbacks put into the corrupt politician’s
pockets and RAT campaign slush funds?


3 posted on 03/24/2017 12:23:15 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: Thalean

I’ve never thought we needed to make Mexico pay for the Wall in any grand gesture. We can do it in reduced aid.

We’ll be so far ahead financially, it won’t matter. The Wall will pay for itself, and quickly.


4 posted on 03/24/2017 12:37:56 AM PDT by jazminerose (Adorable Deplorable)
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To: Thalean

In my opinion, the wall is one of two Trump mandatory items.

He ran on the Wall, and he ran on American jobs.

Sure there were other issues as well, but in my opinion those are the two which will make him, or which will break him.

If he builds the wall. All of the wall. Right away. And if he is TOUGH on global trade, bringing back manufacturing jobs right to America.

Then he will be re-elected, and he will be hugely popular.

If he fails to do either of those two things, nothing else will matter. He will not serve another term.

Those two were in my view, why he is President right now.

He was the only person anywhere, saying those things. And we all elected him for that.

Trump. Hooray for you, make us proud. Make us great once again.

But do your job, please.

You have a big one. Not sure anyone else is up to it.

Be strong.


5 posted on 03/24/2017 12:40:56 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: Thalean

Just eliminate the worthless Departments of Education and Energy and there would be enough money to pay for a hundred walls. Who says we can’t afford it?


6 posted on 03/24/2017 12:48:06 AM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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To: cba123
He ran on the Wall, and he ran on American jobs.

And what goes hand in hand with these two is the immigration debate and what I choose to call the illegal alien invasion of our country by third world criminal debate. He needs to keep his promise on this and not go soft on the dreamers.

Once he goes soft on these illegal invaders, it opens the flood gates for the complete family unit to invade our country.

7 posted on 03/24/2017 12:49:32 AM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it, but ready to go again)
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To: eartick

Oh I agree. 100%.

What I’m saying is this is the reason he was elected. There is a HUGE section of Americans who do not want our country sold out, the way BOTH PARTIES have set it up now.

Trump was all alone. But he was saying what so many Americans believe.

He gets it. I think. He seems to be the only one, in fact.

Hope he’s strong on these issues.

They are big, for America.

He’s the guy.


8 posted on 03/24/2017 12:55:35 AM PDT by cba123 ( Toi la nguoi My. Toi bay gio o Viet Nam.)
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To: jazminerose

I’m all for recouping the cost at Mexico’s expense but I have absolutely no problem paying for the wall with tax dollars up front if that’s what we have to do. We ought to send Mexico the bill and if they decline to pay it, we should F them out of 10 times the cost of the wall.


9 posted on 03/24/2017 1:10:46 AM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: Thalean

Let’s make the wall 10ft higher and 20ft deeper. It’ll pay off in no time.


10 posted on 03/24/2017 1:15:07 AM PDT by Bullish (May as well just rename Hollywood---> Hypocrite city)
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To: Thalean

Thank the scotus. It created anchor babies, and determined that illegals are entitled to the same social and public services as citizens. Thanks to black-robed tyranny, mexicans and muzzies will overwhelm the US. All in the name of progressive social justice. Sic Semper Tyrannis.


11 posted on 03/24/2017 2:09:20 AM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Doogle

here is your proof. www.MaineTV.net/drugs.htm


12 posted on 03/24/2017 6:12:35 AM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (politicians beware)
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To: Doogle
..does that 148 billion include the kickbacks put into the corrupt politician’s pockets and RAT campaign slush funds?

Nope, 'graft' costs are too high to calculate...

13 posted on 03/24/2017 6:20:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (Elections no longer matter. We have lost the country to the appointed. - freeperRepRivFarm)
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To: Thalean

[[Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year]]

No it doesn’t- illegals cost htis country between $400 BILLION DOLLARS and $600 BILLION DOLLARS every single year-

And the reports which found that amount were from years ago- it’s likely even higher today-


14 posted on 03/24/2017 6:32:30 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Thalean

The Costs Of Illegal Immigration

It is estimated that illegal immigrants cost this country somewhere between $400 Billion dollars and $600 Billion Dollars Every Single Year

DARK SIDE of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION YEARLY COSTS
45,008 illegal aliens from countries on the U.S. list of state-sponsors of terror or from countries that protected terrorist organizations and their members were released into the general public between 2001 and 2005 despite the fact that DHS couldn’t confirm their identity. Ultimate costs are unknown. Remember 9/11? ?

The Border Patrol arrested 39,215 “other-than-Mexicans,” along the Southwest border. In 2004, the number jumped to 65,814. DHS admits they only catch an estimated 1/3 of the border crossers. Ultimate collateral damage costs of the ones not caught are unknown. ?

Some sources say that bin Laden purchased several suitcase nukes from the Chechen rebels in 1996. Allegedly several of these weapons have been forward deployed to the US in preparation for al Qaeda’s next attack on American soil. Ultimate costs are unknown. ?

According to two trainers at an anti-terrorism conference, preparations are well underway in Islamic terrorist camps for attacks on American schools that will bring “rivers of blood and staggering body counts.” Ultimate costs are unknown. ?

Illegal aliens are enormously involved identity fraud. Costs are unknown. ?

Illegal aliens are involved in a plethora of other criminal activities including such crimes involving methamphetamine, cocaine, home invasion, auto insurance fraud, life insurance fraud, food stamp fraud, mortgage fraud, auto theft, drug trafficking, prostitution, and counterfeiting documents. Costs are unknown. ?

At the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in U.S. correctional facilities. $6.8B
Mac Johnson estimates that illegal aliens murder between 1,806 and 2,510 people in the U.S. annually, an average of 2,158 murders. (Representative King states illegal aliens are responsible for 4,380 murders) $8.4 B

According to FBI Estimates on Number of Arrests in 2005 in the United States and applying a straight 5% of population representation, illegal aliens would have committed 704,709 crimes in 2005. Based on an average of $25,000 per crime, the costs would be $17.6 billion. Some estimates have their involvement much higher. $17.6B

Based on a GAO report of 55,322 illegal aliens incarcerated in federal, state, and local facilities during 2003 and extrapolating the average number of offenses out across all 267,000 incarcerated illegal alien criminals results in some 1,288,619 crimes! Based on an average of $25,000 per crime, the costs would be $32.2 billion. Another estimated 240,000 criminal illegal aliens are not incarcerated. $32.2B

Professor David Anderson reports that the net annual burdened costs of crime, in 2006 dollars that would be $1.62 TRILLION. A 5% illegal alien participation would be $81 BILLION. Some studies indicate the participation of illegal aliens is much higher than representation. $81B
80,000 to 100,000 illegal aliens who have been convicted of serious crimes still walk the streets. As previously noted, based on studies, those illegal alien criminal will commit 13 offenses each. Total costs are unknown. ?

An estimated 2,258,550 pounds of cocaine made it through the southern border with an estimated street value conservatively estimated $72.2 BILLION. Resulting costs of the associated crime is unknown. Assume 50% is paid for through crime. $36.1B

There are currently over 400,000 unaccounted for illegal alien criminals with outstanding deportation orders. Those are just the ones apprehended. At least one fourth of these are hard core criminals. Resulting costs are unknown. ?
Researcher Deborah Schurman-Kauflin Ph.D. of the Violent Crimes Institute, reports that the illegal alien population includes 240,000 sex offenders – a “conservative estimate.” Based on studies, they will commit 130,909 sex crimes annually. Using $50,000 as the average total economic impact, resulting costs are: $6.5B

63% of the sexual crimes, 82,473 victims, were committed by previously deported perverts who returned to commit the crime. Using $50,000 as the average total economic impact, this would be $4.1 BILLION - more than the cost of a proper border fence along the southern border. . $4.1B

Operation Predator resulted in 6,085 child predator arrests. Some pedophile statistics report that each pedophile molests average of 148 children. If so, that could be as many as 900,580 victims. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Gangs Or Us estimates that MS-13 has over 15,000 members and associates in at least 115 different cliques in 33 states, and these numbers are continually increasing. .Resulting costs are unknown. ?

In one report, mostly illegal alien Hispanics were involved in 25% of the fatal traffic accidents, an astounding 5 times as much participation as representation. In those accidents, 75% of the drivers had no auto insurance, nearly all of the vehicles driven by migrants were registered to other drivers, and 93% of the vehicles had false out-of-state tags. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Illegal aliens are often involved in DWIs at a rate that is 3-6 times greater than their representation in the population. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

At a 5% representation, illegal aliens are responsible for 844 alcohol related fatalities. Data suggests their participation is actually far higher. (Rep.King states that illegal aliens were responsible for 4,745 alcohol related fatalities. If so, that would 5.6 times as many deaths as representation.) Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Based on NHTSA data and a 5% participation rate, illegal are responsible for 309,050 accidents, 2,132 deaths, 139,400 injuries, and a cost of $11.5 billion. Data suggest their involvement is much higher, maybe 3-5 times higher. $11.5B

Half of all children born to Hispanic Americans in 2002 were illegitimate, twice the rate for American whites and 42 percent higher than the overall American rate. Rates are suspected of being even higher for Hispanic illegal aliens. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

There are an estimated 5.1 million ESL students in the USA. If 90% of the ESL students are children of illegal aliens then the education costs for children of illegal aliens is about $34.5 billion per year. $34.5B

Many illegal aliens are carrying horrific third world diseases. In the 40 years prior to 2002, there were only 900 total cases of leprosy in the US. In the following three years there have been 9,000 cases. TB is epidemic in many illegal alien communities and a new Multiple-Drug-Resistant (MDR) TB is spreading. Each person infected with TB will infect 10 others. Treating a single case of MDR TB costs between $250,000 and $1,200,000 per person. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Between March 2000 and March 2005, only 9 percent of the net increase in jobs for adults went to people born in the US but natives accounted for 61 percent of the net increase in the overall size of the 18- to 64-year-old population. The jobs were taken mostly by illegal aliens, displacing native born Americans. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

The National Academy of Science reported that from 1980 to 1995 there was a 44% of the decline in the real wages of high school dropouts as a result of immigration. This affects Black and Hispanics Americans the greatest and is a great contributor to the high unemployment rate in this segment of the population. Resulting costs are unknown. ?

Harvard Professor George Borjas has reported that illegal aliens displaced American workers at a cost in excess of $133 billion dollars in 2005. $133B

The Wall Street investment firm Bear Stearns states we are losing $35 billion a year in income tax collections from jobs that are now off the books. $35B

National Academy of Sciences study estimated that immigration’s net benefit to the American economy is only $10 billion. This item is included to illustrate one of the very few real economic benefits of tolerating illegal aliens. Most of the other benefits of illegal aliens “doing the work that Americans won’t” at lower wages goes into the pockets of their employers. -$10B

A Rice University study calculated that in 2006 the net annual cost of legal and illegal immigration will add up to $108 billion. Illegal immigration is about half the total. $54B

The population of the USA recently crossed the 300,000,000. At the present growth rate, it will hit 400 million as early as 2029 and about 500 million in 2050. And if things don’t change real fast, maybe even a Billion by 2075. Additional infrastructure costs will be in the TRILLIONS. ?

Immigration will account for 96 percent of the future increase in the school-age population over the next 50 years. Cost to the infrastructure is unknown. ?

A recent report notes that illegals sent and estimated $45 Billion south in 2006, which was up from an estimated $30 Billion in 2004. That money leaving the economy does not produce secondary jobs here.

Using a 2:1 money multiplier, that is $90 billion removed from the American economy. $90B

A Census Bureau study estimates that households headed by illegal aliens used $10 billion more in government services than they paid in taxes in 2002. These figures are only for the federal government; costs at the state and local level are also significant. The study also finds that if illegal aliens were given amnesty, the fiscal deficit at the federal level would grow by nearly $29 billion. $10-29B

Jonathan Weisman of the Washington Post states “The Senates embattled immigration bill would raise government spending by as much as $126 billion over the next decade, $12.6B

While some of the costs summarized above are subsets, e.g. cost of the murders as part of the cost of crime, as you can see the economic costs of tolerating illegal immigration is quite considerable. You are paying for it in terms of higher taxes, insurance premiums, et cetera. Some estimates place the net costs of each illegal alien in the country at $50,000 – $100,000. (FYI: 12,000,000 X $50,000 = $600,000,000,000) When the all the indirect costs are factored in, it is probably even higher. In any case, it is a cost that YOU are paying for.

Even saving ten cents on a head of lettuce, how much lettuce would that buy?

Regardless,

What price do you put on each American who has been molested, raped, killed, or murdered by an illegal alien?

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/the_costs_of_illegal_immigration.html


15 posted on 03/24/2017 6:34:52 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Thalean

Only works if illegal aliens are removed. Every one of them. Any amnesty reduces that $148B savings.

Immigration.Moratorium.10years.Now


16 posted on 03/24/2017 7:32:23 AM PDT by RideForever
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To: Bob434

Fantastic response, great info. Thanks for that.

I completely agree regarding crime: you can’t put a price on all the intangible costs.

When someone’s murdered, for example, you can’t really quantify that, either in terms of quality of life, nor in terms of what they could’ve contributed (nor their families pain and suffering).


17 posted on 03/24/2017 2:37:33 PM PDT by Thalean
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To: eartick

Wall is pointless without mass deportations.

And I mean all of them: criminals and “dreamers” included.

Just look at the costs in California, where 1 in 6 kids is an illegal or anchor baby. Society just can’t function with an illegal population that large, at least not a free society.


18 posted on 03/24/2017 2:37:33 PM PDT by Thalean
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To: Bob434

Depends on the estimates of the population used.

This article used the lowest possible estimate: using the bigger, and better, estimate the costs would triple, and be in the ballpark you’re talking about.

I agree.


19 posted on 03/24/2017 2:37:33 PM PDT by Thalean
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To: Thalean

Yeah- the estimates figured in just basics- not intangibles- like for murder- they figured in the cost of a trial, cost of lawyer for the illegal- cost of appeals- cost of lost income from the deceased for his or her family- cost of imprisoning the illegal (It’s estimated that each inmate costs nearly $145 per day to house- (compared to many seniors disabled and veterans getting only around $20-$30 per day)- etc etc etc-

The intangibles- can’t put a price on that- people lives are ruined forever (That is why sins such as murder are ‘ongoing’ and need eternal punishment if the person doesn’t repent- sins like murder ‘grow outwards- affecting not just the victim, but their families, and their families for generations to come in many cases- it can literally change the course of destiny in a negative way-)

It is infuriating when liberals claim illegals help this country- Some may- sure- but the costs of illegals is enormous- A $25 billion dollar wall would be a no brainer bargain


20 posted on 03/24/2017 7:40:58 PM PDT by Bob434
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