Posted on 03/16/2017 6:49:34 AM PDT by w1n1
I’ve seen a guy survive one 50 cal round to the chest and survive, so I guess anything is possible.
Dum Dums are good for a short distance. Why not use a shot gun. Some of the military use an M4/M16 with the M26 Modular Accessory Shotgun System. So it is a rifle with a shotgun attached.
The M26 Modular Accessory Shotgun System, or MASS, is a developmental under-barrel shotgun attachment for the M16/M4 family of United States military firearms. It can also be fitted with a pistol grip and collapsible stock to act as a stand-alone weapon. It is replacing the current M500 shotguns in service. Takes less shots at close range and does a variety of damage.
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Man that is bucking the odds. I have seen some bodies after MaDeuce got done. It wasn’t pretty.
Having shot about everything four and two legged in North America(with many different caliber weapons) I will say that anything is possible when it come to bullet results.
I’ve never seen a deer drop where it was standing.
US forces are fielding hollow point rounds. The US is not a signatory to the 1899 Hague Convention, though we previously complied with the (outmoded) regulation. During WWII,
Rate ot twist in regards to stability in anything but air is a moot argument. It would take a twist rate on the order of a few hundred thousands per inch to get the several million plus RPM to remain stable in tissue. ALL bullets if constructed of anything non malleable, will tumble or at least invert after a few inches of straight on penetration in anything but air.
So, yes, even my 1 in 6.5 AR barrel firing a 90 grain Match King will tumble in tissue.
The effect of the original 55 grn 556 bullet at 3250 fps was/is that it tended to break in half at the cannelure after yawing about 90 degrees, and then come apart into many varying sized fragments, at ranges out to about 100-150 m.
The later 62 grain bullet does the same at abut the same ranges from a 20in rifle, the 14.5 inch carbine, out to about 90 m.
After about these ranges, all of the current bullets tend to become a yawing solid with less disruptive effect than at close range.
No, I would not want to take any bullet from any firearm in my chest or any other boy part. Been there, done that, got a bloody t-shirt.
carry on.
And vaporize them with 40mm du rounds...
Hit nothing but chest wall and aerated lung. Chest wall looked horrible, especially the exit but missed major vessels. The fact found almost but nothing but air limited energy transfer is the only reason we could think of that allowed him to survive.
It was the worlds biggest sucking chest wound.
>> Could you survive three AR15 rounds to the chest?
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>> No. Next question.
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In 1970, we were on a patrol in Vietnam when we started taking small arms fire from a group of bushes.
We returned fire until nobody fired back.
When we went to check the damage, there were several KIAs and then there was this young (21-24 yo) Vietnamese woman lying on the ground in dire straits. I took the Chinese SKS rifle from her hand and then tried to stop the bleeding from the 3 inch grouping of three 7.62mm rounds (.30 cal.) that had gone in her chest and out her back. We managed to slow the bleeding and got a medivac helicopter to take her to a hospital, where she got patched up and sent to a POW camp a week later.
So, from first hand experience, I know that that someone can survive three AR15 rounds (5.56mm) to the chest if they are very lucky.
Hit them right behind the ear and they will drop where they are standing.
Three rounds of anything to the chest is going to mess you up, if not outright kill you where you stand.
Depending on placement, not likely. However, it would be great to get the “tumbling” part of the description removed from parlance.
The 5.56 round, with a few exceptions and twist rate considered, is pretty stable in flight. Considering that class of cartridge is primarily dedicated to blowing up wood-chucks, prairie-dogs, coyotes, and other vermin out to 300 yards. That kind of accuracy does not come from a round tumbling, but from spinning with a high degree of concentricity and manufacturing uniformity.
The description of explosive wounds come from the round’s tendency to deflect once it encounters something strong enough to deflect the nose. The 55 Gr slug has a balance point close to the rear third of the slug...Bigger relative lever to deflect the point. When the point is deflected, more surface area of the slug presents along the path of the projectile causing a larger more jagged wound channel/exit.
While it may be possible to live through three non-deflected hits which didn’t rupture the heart, circulatory, or breathing systems (still a considerable amount of hydrostatic shock from those rounds), it is doubtful.
Don’t stand in front of trigger happy riflemen?
KYPD
You also cannot kill an enemy using flechettes either, which makes no sense at all.
flechettes are awesome!
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