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Irish in America: How do you feel now about Trump?
The Irish Times ^
| January 15, 2017
Posted on 01/16/2017 6:42:01 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: WildHighlander57
His moms name was McLeod.
Scottish.
There can be only onie.
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posted on
01/16/2017 8:48:20 AM PST
by
freefdny
To: freefdny
There can be only one.
Highlander joke ruined by typo.
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posted on
01/16/2017 8:49:50 AM PST
by
freefdny
To: american colleen
What you say is true but I would also say that the Irish immigrants of the 19th century were the inner-city blacks of today. Incredible criminality among the lower class of Irish. Just check a rogue’s gallery of NYC at the time! All Irish. Billy the Kid was the rule, not the exception, lol.
To: Rockingham
Sounds like a nice era :)
My nephews/nieces and my cousins’ kids have no idea that they have an ethnicity pretty much :) That’s as it should be.
Third generation it really starts to die out.
Though I wish the parents had spoken italian in the house when they were young, with English of course being the first language.
Kids at that age can very easily learn two languages.
Specialists say six!!
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posted on
01/16/2017 8:52:18 AM PST
by
dp0622
(The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
To: Buckeye McFrog
Right, Ireland is also a country with no borders today.
Very different place than it was before the EU experiment.
Sad. Not whiners tho.
To: miss marmelstein
To: IronJack
In this country the Irish hardly suffered at all. Their troubles, such as they were, was due to their Catholicism. Italians, German Catholics, Poles, and others had the same issues. Genetically, the Irish different little from the Highland Scots or the Welsh, who are Celtic in culture as well. DNA shows the Irish as little different from the British as a whole and even other Northwestern European people. Scottish and Welsh Americans are considered WASPs, even though their status is due to their Protestant background, not their DNA.
That being said, the legitimacy of their persecution in the Old World has nothing to do with their complaints today The same applies to blacks and Jews.
To: Wallace T.
They were, if not "persecuted" in this country, at the very least greatly disenfranchised and marginalized. To be fair, so were many Italians and Poles from roughly the same era. American society, contrary to the "melting pot" rhetoric, has always resisted the introduction of new ethnicities, although conformity to the American ethic -- hard work, honesty, humility, grace -- tends to expedite their eventual assimilation.
Segregation, either externally or internally imposed, disrupts that assimilation and perpetuates hostility. It is not the responsibility of the majority to conform to the expectations of the minority and the former rightfully resents being forced to do so.
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posted on
01/16/2017 9:20:29 AM PST
by
IronJack
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I consider myself an Honorary Irishman since I like their whiskey.
I supported Donald Trump and I am very optimistic about the prospects for his Presidency.
ML/NJ
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posted on
01/16/2017 9:48:44 AM PST
by
ml/nj
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Just shows its all about FEELINGS, not truth.
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posted on
01/16/2017 9:48:52 AM PST
by
SuziQ
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm of Irish heritage (but *not* “Irish-American”) and know there are more than a few Irish illegals here.I've been there...found it to be a dreary,depressing place.It's truly a foreign country to me.I couldn't care less what the Irish think about the US...or about Trump.And I couldn't care less what any hyphenated American thinks...including “Irish-Americans”.
To: KeyLargo
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posted on
01/16/2017 10:20:32 AM PST
by
Rannug
("all enemies, foreign and : domestic")
To: McGavin999
Yikes! I was typing on my smartphone, which has an especially annoying autocorrect!
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posted on
01/16/2017 11:03:12 AM PST
by
utahagen
To: dp0622
My grandparents on both sides make a deliberate effort to raise my parents as Americans without qualification. My paternal grandfather from County Cork dropped his association with the IRA and became a flag waving American, while my father's parents forbade their five boys from speaking Polish in the home and required that they instead "speak American." If nothing else, I can be grateful that I have no sympathies for the IRA and never had the torment of trying to learn Polish.
To: dp0622
I fall into that category. I would love to go back. I love Ireland. Its a great place. Nothing more relaxing than a week in the Bantry.
But Since Trump himself is only second generation from Scotland on his mothers side. And 4 of his five children are themselves second generation. I feel confident that Trump cares more about making America great first. And not so much stopping immigration, at least not legal immigration.
Nobody has the right to come to America accept Americans. And the wrong headed people who think you have to accept everyone. Are taking the easy way out. What they should be doing is promoting stability in other countries. Creating and supporting gangs in Mexico or toppling governments in the middle east is causing refuges. These people were happy at one point until Obama gave bombs and guns to terrorists.
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posted on
01/16/2017 2:34:30 PM PST
by
poinq
To: dp0622
When I “went back” after several generations to the town from which one of my ancestors came, I saw why he and so many others left. Beautiful country. For sheep.
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posted on
01/16/2017 4:25:45 PM PST
by
Albion Wilde
("Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo."--Donald Trump)
To: utahagen
I am disgusted by how reflexively anti-GOP the Irish over there and the illegal Irish are here. They seem to love to be resentful victims."Irish Alzheimer's": You forget everything but your grudges.
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posted on
01/16/2017 4:29:08 PM PST
by
Albion Wilde
("Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo."--Donald Trump)
To: KeyLargo
I know that she is pro-abortion, but have wondered what the need for traveling to Ireland to join in the rallies there is?Because Ireland was the last country of Europe to legalize it, and up until recently was rated the most Christian country of Europe. Lately, George Soros has funneled millions of dollars into converting Ireland to just another socialist heathen pit. His activists went there to lobby for gay marriage, and it was legalized last year. The European Union has also sent in a large number of muslim immigrants. Those things alone are the end of the Ireland we once knew.
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posted on
01/16/2017 4:34:17 PM PST
by
Albion Wilde
("Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo."--Donald Trump)
To: CodeToad
Wow. Descended from Oglethorpe?
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posted on
01/16/2017 4:39:45 PM PST
by
Albion Wilde
("Americanism, not globalism, will be our credo."--Donald Trump)
To: Albion Wilde
I wish, but probably not.
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posted on
01/16/2017 5:26:47 PM PST
by
CodeToad
(If it weren't for physics and law enforcement, I'd be unstoppable!)
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