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Irish in America: How do you feel now about Trump?
The Irish Times ^ | January 15, 2017

Posted on 01/16/2017 6:42:01 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

With just days to go until Donald Trump is inaugurated as the 45th president of the United States of America, we want to hear from Irish readers living there about how they feel now about him entering the White House.

On the day of the election result, we were inundated with reaction, with the majority expressing shock and dismay. Have your opinions or expectations changed in the months since? What did you think of Mr Trump’s press conference this week? What is the mood like where you live? How do you think his presidency could affect the Irish community in the US?

Yesterday it emerged that the president-elect’s transition team has been considering ways to revamp the H1-B visa, a common programme for temporary Irish workers coming to the US. The future of the popular J-1 visa for students is also shaky as Mr Tump pledged to end the programme during his election campaign. The fate of undocumented people - including an estimated 50,000 Irish - is most uncertain. Are you concerned about these potential changes, or other aspects of Trump's immigration policy?

Send us your thoughts and opinions by email to abroad@irishtimes.com, including your name, where you live, when you emigrated, your occupation and age. Photographs are optional. A selection of submissions will be published on irishtimes.com next week. Thank you.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics; Travel
KEYWORDS: abortion; aliens; illegals; immigration; ireland; irish; leftists; libarals; prolife; trump; visas
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To: IronJack

Unlike almost every other white immigrant group? the Irish and the Jews constantly whine about their oppression. Both groups had plenty of reasons to complain about their treatment overseas. However when they got off the boat, their whining should have stopped. German, Italian, Polish, and countless other immigrants dropped the Old World grudges and assimilated. The blacks are also incessant whiners as well.


21 posted on 01/16/2017 7:16:49 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: dp0622

Even those of us who are rabid conservatives and who donated to and voted for Trump?


22 posted on 01/16/2017 7:17:17 AM PST by Rockingham
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What does one’s country of heritage have to do with one’s opinions?
For the feeble-minded: not all people of Irish descent think alike on all matters.
Resolution for the new year: don’t be stupid.


23 posted on 01/16/2017 7:18:58 AM PST by I want the USA back (Voltaire: To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
Over a century ago, the Catholic hierarchy and the laity threw themselves into the arms of the party of slavery, the KKK, and Jim Crow, and they have largely continued to snuggle in those arms as that party became the party of baby-murder and sodomy.

A good article and paper on this is The Curley Effect: Using Redistributive Politics to Shape a Left-Wing Electorate.

24 posted on 01/16/2017 7:22:11 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Some of this really is a generational thing. My one uncle was (before he passed away) was Irish and strongly identified as such. Despite the Dems standing for pretty much everything he was against (abortion, anti-gun, gay rights, the Sexual Revolution, etc.), he absolutely hated Republicans and kept voting for Dems. He had 5 kids (my cousins) and all but one of them are strong Republicans.


25 posted on 01/16/2017 7:24:43 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: ought-six

I have a Jewish acquaintance that has traveled to Ireland a number of times to participate in abortion rallies.

I know that she is pro-abortion, but have wondered what the need for traveling to Ireland to join in the rallies there is?


26 posted on 01/16/2017 7:25:44 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: I want the USA back
What does one’s country of heritage have to do with one’s opinions?

So Germans, Irish and Italians etc. all came from countries that had the same philosophy, beliefs and culture as the founders? Of course there was a dilution of founding principles from day 1.

27 posted on 01/16/2017 7:28:03 AM PST by Stentor
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To: dp0622

I fall into that category. I would love to go back. I love Ireland. Its a great place. Nothing more relaxing than a week in the Bantry.

But Since Trump himself is only second generation from Scotland on his mothers side. And 4 of his five children are themselves second generation. I feel confident that Trump cares more about making America great first. And not so much stopping immigration, at least not legal immigration.

Nobody has the right to come to America accept Americans. And the wrong headed people who think you have to accept everyone. Are taking the easy way out. What they should be doing is promoting stability in other countries. Creating and supporting gangs in Mexico or toppling governments in the middle east is causing refuges. These people were happy at one point until Obama gave bombs and guns to terrorists.


28 posted on 01/16/2017 7:28:04 AM PST by poinq
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To: kosciusko51

I can’t address the equations but the narrative is interesting. Thanks for the link.


29 posted on 01/16/2017 7:33:10 AM PST by BurrOh (All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. ~Orwell)
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To: poinq

Ireland Has a New Religion: Liberal-Left Totalitarianism

Kevin Myers
23 May 2015

Ireland – which decriminalised male homosexual acts only twenty-three years ago, and where it was illegal for single people to buy a condom until 1992 – is now officially the most homophiliac country in the world. It is the first state ever to put gay marriage to a vote, and lodge in its constitution the right of same sex-couples to wed.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/05/23/ireland-has-a-new-religion-liberal-left-intolerance/


30 posted on 01/16/2017 7:35:21 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: poinq

Ireland Has a New Religion: Liberal-Left Totalitarianism

Kevin Myers
23 May 2015

Ireland – which decriminalised male homosexual acts only twenty-three years ago, and where it was illegal for single people to buy a condom until 1992 – is now officially the most homophiliac country in the world. It is the first state ever to put gay marriage to a vote, and lodge in its constitution the right of same sex-couples to wed.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/05/23/ireland-has-a-new-religion-liberal-left-intolerance/


31 posted on 01/16/2017 7:35:22 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Rockingham

Just joking. Italians and Irish always tease each other on staten island


32 posted on 01/16/2017 7:36:04 AM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Irish?

His mom’s name was McLeod.

Scottish.


33 posted on 01/16/2017 7:36:36 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: ought-six

well said...you have saved me the trouble of trying to explain that. But the Irish...wow, they do love their socialism.


34 posted on 01/16/2017 7:36:51 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: poinq

Sorry for the duplicate post.

Has anyone noticed that FR website is very slow now?


35 posted on 01/16/2017 7:37:40 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This Irish-American voted for Trump.

As did just about his entire family (save for one NeverTrumper).

On the whole though the Irish here vote Dem. Too much brainwashing from union newsletters.


36 posted on 01/16/2017 7:42:41 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: utahagen
Isn't it amazing how we all learn how to read autocorrect and just move on with the comment? Go back and look at your post😉 Point is we knew what you meant
37 posted on 01/16/2017 7:43:27 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
Thomas Jefferson, undoubtedly based on his experience as ambassador to France, had noted that foreigners do not understand our constitutional division of federal and state powers.
"With respect to our State and federal governments, I do not think their relations correctly understood by foreigners. They generally suppose the former subordinate to the latter. But this is not the case. They are co-ordinate departments of one simple and integral whole." --Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824.

So Ireland, and all other countries, probably sees POTUS as a prime minister or king like low-information USA voters do.

But POTUS actually has much less constitutional authority to decide domestic policy than prime ministers and kings do imo.

In fact, the Congress has needed to propose amendments to the Constitution to justify at least some of the treaties that the feds have agreed to.


38 posted on 01/16/2017 7:49:25 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: Wallace T.
I've never suspected the Irish of being whiners. They were some hard men, that's for sure, and assimilated slowly and often violently. But considering the treatment they got ("No dogs or Irish allowed"), that they assimilated at all is remarkable.

Jews are largely the same, in my experience. They're traditionally liberals, which escapes logic, but they don't tend to complain, except to each other, and then the complaints never stop!

But blacks? Having suffered far less lengthy oppression than either of the other groups, and with far greater resources devoted to redressing their grievances, they still whine the loudest and most often. They have assimilated little and if anything, are moving toward even greater segregation.

I'd take 10 Irishmen before one of obama's kids.

39 posted on 01/16/2017 8:00:51 AM PST by IronJack
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To: kosciusko51

Yes!


40 posted on 01/16/2017 8:02:25 AM PST by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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