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Did I buy the wrong AR15?
Am Shooting Journal ^ | 12/23/2016 | J Hines

Posted on 12/23/2016 5:34:02 AM PST by w1n1

Are you with that crowd that is still sitting on the fence figuring if you're gonna buy an AR? Or, maybe you decided that you wanted to invest in one but not sure of which brand? Or, you did get one but still not sure if you got the right AR15?

You can go cheap to high end. Obviously, the good cheap are Ruger, M&P and others. High End would probably be Daniel Defense or Cobalt Kinetics. Or, you can let this guy from Wrangler Star Youtube explain his reasoning for going with a DDM4V7, yeh its a Daniel Defense brand. You can hear what this fella had to say about his AR choice here. Please chime in and let us know if you're an AR owner and why/how did you choose the AR that you have.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: ar15; banglist; danieldefense; ruger
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To: Tailback

Thank you.


41 posted on 12/23/2016 7:15:48 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: redfreedom

They still make the standard M1A with walnut stocks. I love mine!


42 posted on 12/23/2016 7:19:44 AM PST by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: w1n1
The law of diminishing returns holds true for firearms, as does the adage "you get what you pay for." I will still offer my recommendations to people when they ask me about which AR they should buy, but I no longer bother to argue when they pull out the "just as good but cheaper" arguments they heard from some doof who is the local expert on everything.

I understand people are on budgets, so I don't get all snooty if someone wants a S&W or equivalent AR, because they aren't likely to push it really, really hard. The Colts are still the yardstick by which a fighting AR is measured (some people say they are the baseline). The DD stuff is pretty good, and they stand behind it. BCM offerings ditto, but - IMHO - not any better. LMT about the same. I haven't been around a new Noveske or Larue, but Knight's Armament are dandy, but they don't come cheap.

For coyote guns, show-and-tell shooters or paper/pop bottle plinkers, it doesn't matter because if it takes a crap at the wrong time, nobody is likely to die as a consequence.

Mr. niteowl77

43 posted on 12/23/2016 7:20:24 AM PST by niteowl77 (Don't need no Bushes. Don't need no Clintons. Don't need no fooling around.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

You bought the correct gun. Only buy ARs chambered for 5.56. It can shoot both 5.56 and .223. The reverse is not so.


44 posted on 12/23/2016 7:26:43 AM PST by D Rider
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To: w1n1

I follow Wranglerstar, he likes guns, but is not a gun guy. He demonstrates tools mostly on his videos. That video was a tool review not an advertisemen,t just a demonstrations of a tool he really likes. Take it for what it is.

He has one of the better channels on Youtube and his older videos are classics. His construction of a water hammer pump is great information for preppers and just plain interesting.


45 posted on 12/23/2016 7:27:32 AM PST by dangerdoc ((this space for rent))
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To: 9422WMR
Rock River!!

Right on! There's a reason the DEA buys them. I own two. Put thousands of rounds through both reliably. Fantastic weapons.

46 posted on 12/23/2016 7:44:31 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: w1n1

I know I didn’t cause I bought a FN SCAR 17 instead.


47 posted on 12/23/2016 7:47:01 AM PST by Ace the Biker (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: niteowl77

Colt is a bit expensive for what you get. Checking the specs they don’t mention cold hammer forged barrels. Other than that though they’re great, and they would hold their value better than other brands.

FN is rumored to be the maker of most AR cold hammer forged barrels on the market. FN makes great barrels. The M16A2 I shot with my state’s National Guard rifle team was a FN and it was a tack driver. My SCAR 17 is crazy accurate also.

I agree that when people ask what AR to buy, I give them advice that they proceed to ignore, and then they buy a $599 AR on sale at the local gunshop.


48 posted on 12/23/2016 7:48:43 AM PST by Tailback
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To: Ace the Biker

LOVE my SCAR 17.


49 posted on 12/23/2016 7:54:49 AM PST by Tailback
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To: Tailback
FN and Daniel Defense both have in-house hammer forging capabilities, but I don't know where some of the other outfits are sourcing them. I haven't owned a match-grade AR for over a decade, but back then hammer-forged barrels were considered inferior for precision shooting (ditto for chrome-lined barrels of any description).

Mr. niteowl77

50 posted on 12/23/2016 7:56:12 AM PST by niteowl77 (Don't need no Bushes. Don't need no Clintons. Don't need no fooling around.)
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To: usconservative

I have a Palmetto State Armory build that I like. It’s accurate, hasn’t jammed or broken and I could probably shoot rocks out of it if I had to.


51 posted on 12/23/2016 8:01:20 AM PST by ebshumidors
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
Go to the Grocery Store and buy lot’s of cheap soda and out of date mellons and other produce.

Try unusable tomatoes with a 17HMR using the 17 grain bullets. The tomato explosions are quite spectacular.

52 posted on 12/23/2016 8:02:11 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Rum Tum Tugger

I’m with you on the 7.62 round.

VZ58


53 posted on 12/23/2016 8:02:32 AM PST by CelesteChristi
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To: niteowl77

I was on a National Guard team so we competed with rack grade non altered M16A2’s in the military matches.

When we shot civilian matches I shot my Armalite NM with a heavy stainless match barrel, float tube, tuned 2 stage trigger, lead weights in the butt and hand guard, and match sights.

You’re correct, for precision shooting hammer forging isn’t optimal. For barrel life though it is.

LOL! We could really have fun talking guns over some beverages!


54 posted on 12/23/2016 8:06:17 AM PST by Tailback
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To: OldMissileer

I’ve had my eye on the new Savage semi. It seem’s like a lot of fun for a bargain price.

I like turtles on logs in oxbow’s. Quite spectacular also.


55 posted on 12/23/2016 8:16:02 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: 9422WMR

M-1 Garand is dependable beyond belief. Marines in Chosin Reservoir used axle grease to keep them firing. I heard of Garands tested soaking wet and covered with dirt. I’d stake my life on one.


56 posted on 12/23/2016 8:25:29 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: w1n1

Colt CAR15 LE green label (no doubt in my mind). If I had to chose one in survival mode, this would be it.


57 posted on 12/23/2016 8:26:18 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: MHGinTN; ebshumidors

PSA builder here too, solid products at great prices, only thing that sucks for me is having to pay sales tax on web orders because I’m a SC resident...


58 posted on 12/23/2016 8:26:52 AM PST by Geronimo ( To trump is to outrank or defeat someone or something...)
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To: w1n1

As long as the pointy objects come out the front end when you pull the trigger then you are good to go.


59 posted on 12/23/2016 8:42:38 AM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: Pollster1

The quality of the build, the furniture, and the service. They’ve been more than proactive in making sure this thing works for my purposes.

I looked at the high end hand built rifles from Noveske and BCM but got a much better unit price with the needed accessories from DD.


60 posted on 12/23/2016 8:47:11 AM PST by military cop (I carry a .45....cause they don't make a .46....)
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