Posted on 12/01/2016 3:44:38 AM PST by marktwain
This short video shows how not to fire a 12 gauge pistol/Sawed off shotgun. The link is below.
http://i.imgur.com/HXFJbBT.mp4
The video shows the person firing with a less than firm grip on the firearm. Shotguns shells can develop considerable recoil. Without a firm grip, and only using one hand, the firearm flies out of the shooter's hand and smacks him in the face.
It could have been worse. Occasionally a shooter with a weak grip will find that the firearm escapes his grasp while the trigger finger stays engaged. The firearm then may fire one or more shots as it flips around. This is dangerous for any in the area.
It has resulted in the shooter's own death in a small number of cases.
You can see that this shooter is inexperienced and fearful by the body posture. Notice that he leans back away from the gun, attempting to put his body as far from it as possible. This moves his center of gravity back toward the edge of his base of support, making it easy for him to be tipped off balance to the rear.
Experienced shooters lean into the gun, so that recoil moves them onto their base instead of off of it. With a firearm with significant recoil, use two hands to help control it. This is especially worthwhile if you have not fired it before, and do not know how much recoil will be generated.
Once you experience the recoil, you will have an idea of what to expect, and what might be necessary to control it. Be wary of others who have fired guns and then give them to you to "try" if they may have significant recoil.
It is not unknown for pranksters to fire a gun with reduced loads, then to hand it to the unwary with full power loads.
This is a very bad practice, but it happens. Some people like to play "practical jokes". It is a deadly serious matter when firearms are involved.
©2016 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
Link to Gun Watch
When I was younger, I'd try out any sort of "hard kickers" just to do it, but now that I'm a tad brittle and my retinas aren't what they were, I am a lot more diffident.
I am down to one shotgun these days, and it is a general-purpose "house" shotgun deliberately kept simple, short and light. As such, it does smack me with even medium loads; I put a good "R3" pad on it and that does make a big difference. Still, when I recently took it out to practice with, I could not find any reduced recoil buckshot and the full power stuff rang my aging bell pretty good; I need to revise my technique to reflect my new limitations.
Mr. niteowl77
As larry the Cable Guy would say, “Now that’s funny, I don’t care who you are.”
You need the Federal Premium Law Enforcement Flight Control buckshot. 1145 feet per second, with 9 OO buckshot in a 2 3/4 inch load.
Execellent buckshot, and much milder than most buckshot loads.
The box in my hand says LE132 OO.
I found some on sale on the Internet a couple of years ago.
You might want to try one of these the next time you practice.
http://recoilapparelusa.com/mens/pocket-polos/mens-pocket-polo-sport-grey.html
They are available in a lot of different styles so you’re not limited to a polo shirt, but they do work, and the polo shirt version is not too expensive.
actually saw this same thing happen years ago at a range. Old single shot 12ga with a hammer sawed off he got out of the back of a low rider Lincoln. Gun went over his shoulder and missed his head but the hammer tore the hand tissue out in the web between the base of his thumb and forefinger. Blood everywhere. Asked him if wanted to sell that gun as they loaded him into the car. Somehow that illegal weapon was recovered by law enforcement in another state.
12ga with 3in mag loads kicks very hard.
He obviously never fired one before.
He shoulda held it sideways.
The yute does that to keep his pants from falling even further down. A person who appears incapable of pulling his pants up should not be firing a weapon, especially a sawed-off shotgun.
This clown will likely be a future Darwin Award winner.
Dude’s earned a new nickname for himself: “Popeye”
Not too far off-topic ... during the Thanksgiving break my very tech savvy middle son mentioned the latest in “break-in prevention” for those who may not have a shotgun available. It is a phone app that simply, and very loudly plays the sound of a shotgun racking in a shell!
Of course if one is face to face with an intruder, holding up one’s i-phone and playing that may not deter the perp. But I am pretty sure that if a perp starts crawling thru a window and hears that noise, he will change his mind.
The Federal Flight Control stuff is very good. They do make it in different velocities, so make sure it’s the 1145 fps stuff. Fiocchi has reduced recoil buck shot. Sometimes you can find it for 50 cents a round. It may not cycle properly in some semi-autos.
http://www.ammosupplywarehouse.com/product/1329/Fiocchi-Exacta-00-BUCK-LR-2-34-12-ga-10-rndsbox.html
A semi-auto shotgun will be a lot easier on your shoulder than a pump. Mossberg 930 is a good one.
Fixed it for you.
Unfortunately, the shooting club I once attended allowed the presence of a couple of these type dummies.
After one incident involving a S&W 500, with a 16 year old as the victim...I threatened resignation if the idiots were not immediately barred.
They did not, I did.
Three weeks later, an innocent man was injured and lost partial sight from the results of one of those damned "flamethrower" shotgun rounds, surreptitiously loaded in his wife's trap gun by one of the aforementioned idiots.
The lawsuit put the club out of business and in debt forever.
I was subpoenaed for testimony and was deposed, but never got called.
I would have castigated them loudly and clearly, had I been called.
There is NO excuse for that kind of crap, most especially involving firearms and unknowing and unprepared victims.
That sort of stuff is bad when done to grown men who are supposed to be capable of taking care of themselves.
It is doubly evil when done to children, novices, and women.
I have considered going to a gas-operated gun, but the Benellis seem to pound the snot out of me, the Beretta 1301 is light enough that recoil is on par with my current gun (870), and I kind of shy away from Mossbergs in general. I don't do enough shotgun shooting anymore so that trading would make a lot of sense anyway, so I'm relying on lighter loads and adjusting my style. A really GOOD modern recoil pad and a shortened LOP stock help, but physics is physics.
Mr. niteowl77
in my state touching the vehicle with a loaded long gun is illegal
Huh?
I have an Ithaca model 37 “deerslayer” in 16 ga. Has rifle sights. From the bench 1oz slugs will definitely get your attention.
If you are licensed to carry a handgun you may carry it loaded in or ‘on’ a car. Not so with long guns here in the People’s Republic of NY. A fellow a few years back pulled off the road into an old quarry a few days before big game season opened. A state trooper on the highway saw the guy with a target set into the cliff, shooting off the roof of his vehicle. He was summarily arrested for having a loaded long gun in contact with a vehicle. The NRA went to bat for him but I never did find out the outcome.
Suffice it to say you can’t have a loaded rifle/shotgun in, or even on a car.
Bizarre...
I got pulled over heading home with 2 deer strapped to the roof of my vehicle around 16 years ago. Simple hunting license check etc. the cop said where are your firearms? I showed him my loaded personal weapon and a case on top with more handguns. “Where are your shotguns “ as shotguns were the only legal long gun allowed in the county I was hunting. Under everything was my answer. We had packed all our luggage and supplies on top of them and it would have taken a half hour or more to unload then Reload the car. “That's ok......you can go” the cop said.
Curious I asked why there was such a law about loaded long guns in cars
He said “road poaching “. People drive along till they see a deer then shoot them from the road. That, supposedly is the reason for the law, but the letter of the law reads ‘in or ON’.
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