Posted on 10/09/2016 12:18:22 PM PDT by DanMiller
The private conversation between Billy Bush and Donald Trump was surreptitiously recorded by someone. It was provided to NBC approximately eleven years later and shortly before the October 9th presidential debate. We have not been told by whom or why, but it's not difficult to figure it out.
As reported in an October 7, 2016 Washington Post article titled An unlikely Bush finally did some damage to Donald Trump: Billy Bush,
Billyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9uf1AqoBOw Bush is first cousins with former Florida governor Jeb Bush, who was favored to win the Republican nomination before Trump came along and started calling him "low-energy" and attacking him daily on the stump.That means Billy Bush is also first cousins with former president George W. Bush, who Trump has suggested is to blame for 9/11 and who started an Iraq War that Trump has labeled a disaster.
And he's a nephew of former president George H.W. Bush, who has reportedly said he will support Hillary Clinton over Trump, and former first lady Barbara Bush, who has said "I'm sick of" Trump and that she doesn't know how women can vote for him.
None of the Bushes is backing Trump in this campaign. And those who have tried have failed to halt his momentum.
But they continue to try.
I don't know who recorded the Trump-Bush conversation or why. Nor do I know who released the recording or why. However, according to Wikipedia,
After working as a correspondent on Access Hollywood, a syndicated entertainment-news show from 2001 to 2004, Bush was a primary anchor from 2004 until 2016, when he left to become a co-host of the third hour of The Today Show.
Although there has been speculation that NBC might fire Bush as a Today Show anchor, that apparently will not happen.
An NBC executive said Saturday Billy Bush would remain a "Today" show host despite his role in a shocking 2005 video with Donald Trump in which they discussed groping women.“There are no plans to take Billy off the show Monday, and there have been no discussions of any type of disciplinary action,” the exec said.
Another well-placed executive said Saturday that it would be difficult to take action against Bush because the vile talk with Trump happened 11 years ago. [Emphasis added.]
"What are they going to do, suspend him? For something that happened a decade ago?" the executive said. “There's been a lot of water under the bridge since then.”
In any event, Bush was Trump's host on the Hollywood Access bus where they had their conversation. To speculate that he recorded their conversation, apparently without making Trump aware that he was doing so as NBC has acknowledged, and/or had principal access to the recording, and that he or another member of the Bush Clan released it to NBC just before the next Trump-Clinton debacle debate would not be over the top. Writing at American Thinker, Greg Richards says outright that
This was a conversation meant to be private. The person disgraced by this conversation isn't Trump; it is Bush. First recording and then publishing this conversation are the actions of a person with low or no character, a bottom-feeder never to be trusted with anything.
He is probably correct. In any event, guy talk of the sort in which Trump and Bush engaged is harmless -- unless and until it has been made public. Then, it can damage the reputation of the jokers but also females about whom they were joking. It probably won't harm the female in the case, because she rejected Trump's advances. Good for her.
The Clintons' hypocrisy
Bill Clintons predatory conduct toward young women was substantially more damaging to them than to either Clinton. Hillary's disparagements of, and threats to, Bill's victims are in a different class altogether than anything Trump did or said or has even been claimed to have done or said.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9uf1AqoBOw
I did not have sex with Monica Lewinsky:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm6Y1e6i0xI
According to Hillary, it's all about Hillary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ2DW4seyUs
Not really:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_8y0WLm78U
Ms. Lewinsky talks a lot about "public shaming." Has Trump been "publically shamed" for his guy talk? The Clinton campaign, the media and some Republicans are doing just that.
Here's a link to a list of other female victims of "Slick Willie" and "Crooked Hillary."
Conclusions
Today (October 9th), Democrats told Trump to leave Bill Clinton out of tonight's debate because it's old news. Yet Trump's guy talk eleven years ago should apparently be fair game and they want to "focus on the issues." Right.
Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi struck a similar chord in an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press" host Chuck Todd, saying that she did not believe Trump would bring up the former president. "No, because you know why? Elections are about the future. They're about the future. He's talking about something, Bill Clinton, he's not on the ballot."
But Hillary, Bill's enabler and enforcer, is on the ballot. And she is dangerous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvoRcPXURwg
We don't know why the guy talk tape was released shortly before the October 9th debates but in ample time for trump to be publicly shamed by it, but it's not difficult to figure out why. As noted here,
[I]f you want to destroy someone’s reputation or credibility or both, you simply accuse him of the same type of thing you have been doing yourself and with the help of a compliant and prostitute media you can usually bring it off and appear to be taking the moral high ground, when actually your “high” ground is usually lower that that of the person you are trying to drag through the mud. [Emphasis added.]. . . .
[T]he whole deal here is to make Trump look horrendous to the public at large right before the next presidential debate, which is tonight, October 9th. Why they had to hold one of these things on a Sunday is beond me. They couldn’t have waited until Monday? They had to drag this thing into the Lord’s Day?
That the intent of this tape is to portray Trump as the scum of the earth there can be no doubt. And its effect has been demonstrated among the gutless wonders that parade as Republican politicians as they rush to distance themselves from Trump on so-called “moral” grounds. Most of them owe their souls to the Ruling Republican Establishment and so never wanted Trump to begin with, as his candidacy threatened to disrupt the CFR/Trilateralist agenda of their bosses for moving this country toward One World Government. [Emphasis added.]
So let’s attempt to put this into perspective, looking at the situation as it pertains to Trump and the Clintons. For Trump, this is one comment he made eleven years ago. As far as the prostitute press is concerned he might as well have said it ten minutes ago, but he said it eleven years ago. And he has apologized for it. Not that this makes any difference to the managed media. The comment is touted and the apology ignored. [Emphasis added.]
. . . .
So here we have something that Trump said, but it was only talk, lewd locker room talk admittedly, but still talk. Kind of like the talk we hear about Hillary being indicted for her corruption–just talk.
Yet we are now supposed to concentrate totally on Trump’s talk and totally forget all about Hillary’s thoroughgoing corruption over the decades. And we are also supposed to disremember all things pertaining to her “significant other” and what he did to all those women whose names you all have seen in the news over the years and we are all now supposed to forget how Hillary was basically an enabler for her husband’s activities and how she tried to silence all the women that brought rape allegations against Bill. We are all supposed to forget Monica Lewinsky and the “blue dress” and all that like it never happened. None of that is to be remembered tonight at the debate–only Trump’s eleven year old statement. All Klinton indiscretions are to be forgotten–wiped out of memory as surely as Hillary’s email servers were wiped off and Trump is to be raked over the coals not only by Hillary, but also by the supposedly neutral “moderator” who, in reality, will be the second person on Hillary’s debating team. [Emphasis added.]
Yep. And most Republicans appear to think that's what's going on. According to a survey of 1,549 registered voters, including 1,390 likely voters, which was conducted on Saturday by Politico/Morning Consult poll,
While 70 percent of Democrats called on Trump to leave the 2016 race, only 12 percent of Republicans said the same. And of those Republicans, only 13 percent of women said Trump should drop out.
A substantial majority of Democrats want Trump to drop out. Might that be because they have a sense that he will defeat Hillary?
Why would Billy Bush be fired? Isn’t he some kind of a hero after all?
Trump is in a lose, lose situation.
If he stays on the sexual topic, raises old issues about Bill and Hill, he will take criticism.
If he refuses to engage over the old tapes, he will take criticism.
He needs to gain some undecided voters, and I believe this makes it more difficult for him to do that.
Nuffin But Clintoon!
If a Bush family member had access to this video all this time, why didn’t they bring it out during the primaries when it might have been helpful in defeating Trump and securing the nomination for a different, and probably more establishment candidate. To buy that the Bushes brought this out as an October surprise you have to accept that they didn’t just want Trump to lose, but the Republicans to lose the presidency this year.
Powerful people, like the Bush family, keep “hit” or “boot” files of compromising dirt on everyone the come into contact with, in case they ever need to use it against them. Nothing new there.
Shrubs in action
Anderson Cooper very specifically pinned DT down on whether or not he had actually done the things to women he spoke with Bush about, unwanted groping, I suppose. Trump said he had not. Cooper asked him again if he was sure, he denied it again, if I recall correctly. You can bet there is someone in the wings waiting to accuse him of doing exactly what he spoke about to Bush.
Listening to Hugh Hewitt at the moment. He thinks Trump should lay down and let Pence run with it.
What a dope.
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