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Who recorded the Pu**y Gate conversation? Who released it now and why?
Dan Miller's Blog ^ | October 9, 2016 | Dan Miller

Posted on 10/09/2016 12:18:22 PM PDT by DanMiller

The private conversation between Billy Bush and Donald Trump was surreptitiously recorded by someone. It was provided to NBC approximately eleven years later and shortly before the October 9th presidential debate. We have not been told by whom or why, but it's not difficult to figure it out.

As reported in an October 7, 2016 Washington Post article titled An unlikely Bush finally did some damage to Donald Trump: Billy Bush,

Billyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9uf1AqoBOw Bush is first cousins with former Florida governor Jeb Bush, who was favored to win the Republican nomination before Trump came along and started calling him "low-energy" and attacking him daily on the stump.

That means Billy Bush is also first cousins with former president George W. Bush, who Trump has suggested is to blame for 9/11 and who started an Iraq War that Trump has labeled a disaster.

And he's a nephew of former president George H.W. Bush, who has reportedly said he will support Hillary Clinton over Trump, and former first lady Barbara Bush, who has said "I'm sick of" Trump and that she doesn't know how women can vote for him.

None of the Bushes is backing Trump in this campaign. And those who have tried have failed to halt his momentum.

But they continue to try.

I don't know who recorded the Trump-Bush conversation or why. Nor do I know who released the recording or why. However, according to Wikipedia,

After working as a correspondent on Access Hollywood, a syndicated entertainment-news show from 2001 to 2004, Bush was a primary anchor from 2004 until 2016, when he left to become a co-host of the third hour of The Today Show.

Although there has been speculation that NBC might fire Bush as a Today Show anchor, that apparently will not happen.

An NBC executive said Saturday Billy Bush would remain a "Today" show host despite his role in a shocking 2005 video with Donald Trump in which they discussed groping women.

“There are no plans to take Billy off the show Monday, and there have been no discussions of any type of disciplinary action,” the exec said.

Another well-placed executive said Saturday that it would be difficult to take action against Bush because the vile talk with Trump happened 11 years ago. [Emphasis added.]

"What are they going to do, suspend him? For something that happened a decade ago?" the executive said. “There's been a lot of water under the bridge since then.”

In any event, Bush was Trump's host on the Hollywood Access bus where they had their conversation. To speculate that he recorded their conversation, apparently without making Trump aware that he was doing so as NBC has acknowledged, and/or had principal access to the recording, and that he or another member of the Bush Clan released it to NBC just before the next Trump-Clinton debacle debate would not be over the top. Writing at American Thinker, Greg Richards says outright that

This was a conversation meant to be private.  The person disgraced by this conversation isn't Trump; it is Bush.  First recording and then publishing this conversation are the actions of a person with low or no character, a bottom-feeder never to be trusted with anything.

He is probably correct. In any event, guy talk of the sort in which Trump and Bush engaged is harmless -- unless and until it has been made public. Then, it can damage the reputation of the jokers but also females about whom they were joking. It probably won't harm the female in the case, because she rejected Trump's advances. Good for her.

The Clintons' hypocrisy

Bill Clintons predatory conduct toward young women was substantially more damaging to them than to either Clinton. Hillary's disparagements of, and threats to, Bill's victims are in a different class altogether than anything Trump did or said or has even been claimed to have done or said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9uf1AqoBOw

I did not have sex with Monica Lewinsky:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm6Y1e6i0xI

According to Hillary, it's all about Hillary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ2DW4seyUs

Not really:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_8y0WLm78U

Ms. Lewinsky talks a lot about "public shaming." Has Trump been "publically shamed" for his guy talk? The Clinton campaign, the media and some Republicans are doing just that.

Here's a link to a list of other female victims of "Slick Willie" and "Crooked Hillary."

Conclusions

Today (October 9th), Democrats told Trump to leave Bill Clinton out of tonight's debate because it's old news. Yet Trump's guy talk eleven years ago should apparently be fair game and they want to "focus on the issues." Right.

Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi struck a similar chord in an interview with NBC's "Meet the Press" host Chuck Todd, saying that she did not believe Trump would bring up the former president. "No, because you know why? Elections are about the future. They're about the future. He's talking about something, Bill Clinton, he's not on the ballot."

But Hillary, Bill's enabler and enforcer, is on the ballot. And she is dangerous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvoRcPXURwg

We don't know why the guy talk tape was released shortly before the October 9th debates but in ample time for trump to be publicly shamed by it, but it's not difficult to figure out why. As noted here,

[I]f you want to destroy someone’s reputation or credibility or both, you simply accuse him of the same type of thing you have been doing yourself and with the help of a compliant and prostitute media you can usually bring it off and appear to be taking the moral high ground, when actually your “high” ground is usually lower that that of the person you are trying to drag through the mud. [Emphasis added.]

. . . .

[T]he whole deal here is to make Trump look horrendous to the public at large right before the next presidential debate, which is tonight, October 9th.  Why they had to hold one of these things on a Sunday is beond me. They couldn’t have waited until Monday? They had to drag this thing into the Lord’s Day?

That the intent of this tape is to portray Trump as the scum of the earth there can be no doubt. And its effect has been demonstrated among the gutless wonders that parade as Republican politicians as they rush to distance themselves from Trump on so-called “moral” grounds. Most of them owe their souls to the Ruling Republican Establishment and so never wanted Trump to begin with, as his candidacy threatened to disrupt the CFR/Trilateralist agenda of their bosses for moving this country toward One World Government. [Emphasis added.]

So let’s attempt to put this into perspective, looking at the situation as it pertains to Trump and the Clintons. For Trump, this is one comment he made eleven years ago. As far as the prostitute press is concerned he might as well have said it ten minutes ago, but he said it eleven years ago.  And he has apologized for it. Not that this makes any difference to the managed media. The comment is touted and the apology ignored. [Emphasis added.]

. . . .

So here we have something that Trump said, but it was only talk, lewd locker room talk admittedly, but still talk. Kind of like the talk we hear about Hillary being indicted for her corruption–just talk.

Yet we are now supposed to concentrate totally on Trump’s talk and totally forget all about Hillary’s thoroughgoing corruption over the decades. And we are also supposed to disremember  all things pertaining to her “significant other” and what he did to all those women whose names you all have seen in the news over the years and we are all now supposed to forget how Hillary was basically an enabler for her husband’s activities and how she tried to silence all the women that brought rape allegations against Bill. We are all supposed to forget Monica Lewinsky and the “blue dress” and all that like it never happened. None of that is to be remembered tonight at the debate–only Trump’s eleven year old statement. All Klinton indiscretions are to be forgotten–wiped out of memory as surely as Hillary’s email servers were wiped off and Trump is to be raked over the coals not only by Hillary, but also by the supposedly neutral “moderator” who, in reality, will be the second person on Hillary’s debating team. [Emphasis added.]

Yep. And most Republicans appear to think that's what's going on. According to a survey of 1,549 registered voters, including 1,390 likely voters, which was conducted on Saturday by Politico/Morning Consult poll,

While 70 percent of Democrats called on Trump to leave the 2016 race, only 12 percent of Republicans said the same. And of those Republicans, only 13 percent of women said Trump should drop out.

A substantial majority of Democrats want Trump to drop out. Might that be because they have a sense that he will defeat Hillary?


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2016elections; clinton; debates; trump
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1 posted on 10/09/2016 12:18:22 PM PDT by DanMiller
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To: DanMiller

This has all the earmarks of a Bush/Romney takedown attempt.
The Cheap Labor Express Republicans have tried everything to stop Trump from giving the voters the ability to stop the illegal alien inundation that they have been enabling for 30 years.

In every election since the last amnesty we have had amnesty vs amnesty elections.
It was not accidental.
This time they got Trumped and they are royally pissed off about it.
They have purposefully been blocking the citizens from doing anything about the flooding of the country with fraudulently documented foreigners.


2 posted on 10/09/2016 12:20:56 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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To: DanMiller

Billy Bush might lose his job over this. I doubt he’s behind the leak.


3 posted on 10/09/2016 12:21:13 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: DanMiller

I’ve always thought this was more of a Bush ambush than a Clinton ambush (although she may benefit). Baby Huey...I mean Jeb didn’t take getting humiliated very well.


4 posted on 10/09/2016 12:21:48 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: With my own people alone I should like to drive away the Muslims)
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To: DanMiller

Not a dime’s worth of difference between the Clinton and Bush families. They have both done harm to our nation while enriching themselves with wealth and power.

I will never support another of the Bush family clowns.


5 posted on 10/09/2016 12:23:19 PM PDT by boycott (S)
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To: DanMiller

If Billy Bush was in possession of this video, why didn’t he release it during the primary to help cousin Jeb?

Why hold it until now?


6 posted on 10/09/2016 12:23:20 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats: The perfect party for the helpless and stupid, and those who would rule over them.)
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To: DanMiller

It’s make you wonder if the perpetrator was holding it to use as potential blackmail, for exactly this occasion.

How come the media is not disclosing this information?

The word is that the homosexual David Brock got a hold of the recording. How much did he pay for it? Did he offer a Lewinsky?


7 posted on 10/09/2016 12:24:12 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: DanMiller

It is just this sort of blackmail material Noriega used to rise to power in Panama. The Bushes know all about this sort of thing because it was just this sort of material Noriega used against GHW Bush to protect Pablo Escobar. Don’t believe me? Where did the first two bombs fall in Panama and what did they destroy?


8 posted on 10/09/2016 12:24:32 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Don’t be insane. it was the Clinton slime machine. we’ve only seen this a thousand times before.

Jesus. Some people hate republicans more than the liberals that are actively destroying the country.


9 posted on 10/09/2016 12:27:15 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Well even the Bushs proper don’t like Jeb


10 posted on 10/09/2016 12:27:24 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom)
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To: DanMiller

democrats have been searching frantically for something just like this. They have offered BIG money for it, just as they did for Trump’s tax documents. (A democrat working at the IRS violated Trump’s privacy and made a copy of his documents. I see there is no outrage over that.)


11 posted on 10/09/2016 12:27:37 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: willing and eager allies of the hate-America left.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

it was a deranged comment. utterly delusional.


12 posted on 10/09/2016 12:29:19 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: DanMiller

I highly suspect the tape originated with the gopes and specifically with the Bushes.


13 posted on 10/09/2016 12:29:19 PM PDT by arthurus (Hillary's campaign is getting shaky)
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To: boycott

The Bush Dynasty is no longer. It is corrupted as the Clintons. I always held the family in high respect but I do not any longer.


14 posted on 10/09/2016 12:29:56 PM PDT by LoveMyFreedom
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Billy Bush is the on acting like a juvenile in the video.

Is this how most people get ahead? By secretly recording other influential people in hopes of blackmailing them in the future?

GOP-e tactics, easy to see.


15 posted on 10/09/2016 12:30:32 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Patiently waiting for the jack booted kick at my door.)
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To: DanMiller

This is how the Bush’s operate. Encourage statements or behavior that is secretly recorded for later use as blackmail. That’s what goes on in the Crypt in New Haven.


16 posted on 10/09/2016 12:32:04 PM PDT by Ray76
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To: I want the USA back

no outrage, indeed. one reason that there is no outrage over democrat criminal enterprises during this election cycle is because many people are spending all their energy on lunatic bullsh*t like this.

get a grip, people. you’re failing basic enemy identification, and you’re hurting the cause.


17 posted on 10/09/2016 12:32:06 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: DanMiller

To me, this whole sordid thing looks like proof that the Bush Dynasty would rather burn down the Republican Party than lose control of it.


18 posted on 10/09/2016 12:32:08 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Hillary for Prison!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

This says that the Bush family secretly records and saves conversations.


19 posted on 10/09/2016 12:32:38 PM PDT by xzins ( Free Republic Gives YOU a voice heard around the globe. Support the Freepathon!)
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To: DanMiller

One thing I have been unable to discover is where the actual recording was made. If it was made in California, it was done so in violation of Penal Code 632 (California Invasion of Privacy Act). A violation of PC 632 can lead to a fine of up to $2,500 and/or imprisonment for up to a year. James O’Keefe has run afoul of it and tried to have a federal District Court declare it unconstitutional but it was upheld. It would not affect anyone who released the tape but they could go after the recorder. Billy Bush would not be my first (second or third for that matter) choice of a Bush to go after but I believe the US would be safer with any member of that clan behind bars.


20 posted on 10/09/2016 12:32:38 PM PDT by atomic_dog
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