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First Trump had a great speech on immigration with his 10 point plan. It does look like he is going soft on deporting everyone though. Hopefully not as immigration softening is not good.

But now the bad news...Trump still hasn't embraced the wisdom of free trade. Make no mistake about it - just as prochoice = baby killing, fair trade = economy crushing protectionism.

Has anybody seen any sign that Trump is coming over to the free trade globalist camp? My only hope is that he will "soften" his position on trade deals just as he seems to be softening a bit on immigration.

1 posted on 09/02/2016 5:37:37 AM PDT by impimp
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You can take your propaganda on “Free Trade” and shove it! The United States does not need to sacrifice its SOVEREIGNTY in order to export its products to the world. Trump’s position is EXACTLY correct. We should negotiate all of our treaties and exchanges individually one on one as we have always done in the past. Turning over our sovereignty to a band of cutthroats has put us where we are, DEEP IN DEBT!
Trump sticking to America First is the BEST NEWS in YEARS!


2 posted on 09/02/2016 5:52:40 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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Most of the countries that we “free trade” with, have a 15% vat on our goods that was carefully done so as not to be a tariff. That puts us at a disadvantage.

I believe his plan is to address that, possibly seeking an exemption of the vat for our goods. The other way is to offset them with like fees, but for WTO compliance, not tariffs.


3 posted on 09/02/2016 5:53:54 AM PDT by TnGOP (Petey the dog is my foreign policy adviser. He's really quite good!)
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There is no such thing as “Free Trade”.


4 posted on 09/02/2016 6:01:43 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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I may be wrong, but I think his position is closer to mine than it is anti-free trade. I too believe in ‘free trade’, but only when both trading partners go by the same rules, and that is certainly NOT what is happening now. That's what I hear him saying - we need to renegotiate the “free trade” agreements that actually give an advantage to our trading partners (and disadvantage our businesses), so we get back on an even footing. While we too have some areas of protectionism laws within our country (such as ‘antidumping’ laws for steel), other countries have so much protectionism that the dreamed of ‘open markets worldwide for US businesses’ never happened, not to mention the currency pegging of some like China...
5 posted on 09/02/2016 6:03:11 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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Has anybody seen any sign that Trump is coming over to the free trade globalist camp?

Not very likely.

He mistakenly believes a 30% tariff will "protect American workers."

Well, if he really wants to protect American workers, why not 60%, or 100% or even 200%?

Raising a tariff against "unfair" imported goods doesn't create any more jobs than raising the minimum wage would, simply because higher prices--whether imposed on imports or as a result of restarting inefficient domestic production of a product--divert capital from investment into consumption.

It's a temporary fix (the seen) that deprives the nation of new industries and production (the unseen).

Bastiat had a catchy phrase to counter those of his countrymen who advocated protective tariffs:

If goods don't cross borders, armies will.

Put another way, protectionism is an attempt by governments to inflict on their own citizens in peacetime the same kinds of harm their enemies attempt to do (with naval blockades) during wars.

6 posted on 09/02/2016 6:03:16 AM PDT by logician2u
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You obviously did not listen to Trump’s immigration speech by what you posted.

Anyhow, we do have true free trade between the States, but that is it.

The United States did not have NAFTA from 1787 to 1996. Yet we led the world in many things and led us to be a Super Power . So your rubbish about being “isolationists” ( a term which really applies to people that did not want to enter World War I and World War II) is complete malarkey.

Furthermore, it was for the most part tariffs that funded the Federal government to from 1787 until the income tax rolled around after 1913.

Our country cannot succeed with the current RIGGED TRADE DEALS where the U.S. pays tariffs to China and Mexico while they pay no tariffs to us. Moreover, the currency manipulation that China is allowed to do to protect their industry is stupid.

You have to ask yourself were we a stronger country from 1787 until 1996 without the rigged trading or since 1996 up to the present day?


7 posted on 09/02/2016 6:06:07 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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Also, you said that he is softening his immigration policy. I disagree. He has just changed his language.

Immediate deportation of criminals will begin to thin things out a bit. Then:

Implementation of E-Verify will keep most illegals from working. A few prosecutions of those caught hiring them will bring it to a halt. Millions will self-deport.

Then you have maybe a million or so left. A portion of those are Dreamers. If they are adults, born here from illegal parents, legalize them. The rest can be deported, legalized (been here forever, no record, business owners, etc.), or given. a work permit as legal aliens after a slap on the wrist.

Thats my take on how things might go. There could be another step where farm or seasonal workers pay a fine and get work permits.

13 posted on 09/02/2016 6:31:36 AM PDT by TnGOP (Petey the dog is my foreign policy adviser. He's really quite good!)
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Free traitor


20 posted on 09/02/2016 7:46:23 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam , Know Peace)
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We don’t have Free Trade. We have Managed Trade. It is managed to the US’s detriment. Read about the Bretton Wood system. The goal has never been Free Trade. The goal has been to use the strenght of the US Economy to “smooth out” disparties in the global economic system. That might of made sense during the Cold War, it is anachronistic now.


21 posted on 09/02/2016 7:50:14 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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Trump still hasn't embraced the wisdom of free trade.

Hey I'mpimp for the Cheap Labor Express why don't you take your gloBULList crapola and sell it elsewhere.

24 posted on 09/02/2016 8:17:24 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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Trump is not a globalist, thank GOD!


26 posted on 09/02/2016 8:22:16 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (This election is about Nataional Sovereignty, Liberty, and Freedom for future generations)
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FREE TRADE??? You well know none of this Nafta/Gatt/TPP is FREE TRADE. It is government/corporate managed cheap labor agreements.

People have gotten wise to the misuse of the misleading ‘free trade’ propaganda.

TRUMP IS RIGHT.


35 posted on 09/02/2016 8:44:24 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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What I notice is that conservatives are now all over the map on trade. Personally I believe protectionism never benefits anyone; however, I am against unfair trade deals, such as the one we have with China. So while I am ideologically a free trader, I won’t get upset about some protectionism.

The one thing I fear is influence peddling that protectionism can create in Washington.


44 posted on 09/02/2016 1:31:49 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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Trump hasn’t softened on anything, what shite!

As for trade, you are pushing sellout trade, where we purchase other nations products and services because we can’t compete with their cheap labor. So what is your answer to bring all those lost jobs back to the US, pay American workers $3.00 a day?

What exactly is your profession or business you own?


46 posted on 09/02/2016 7:21:53 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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