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The Other Shoe Will Drop -- My Theory is no GOP convention, Three Party Election
original to Free Republic | May 5, 2016 | Peter O'Donnell

Posted on 05/05/2016 11:41:16 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell

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To: Peter ODonnell

I think you are wrong about canceling the convention. But you are on the right track. The Rockefeller wing of the Republican party has been running it since Reagan left office with only one or two hiccups of conservatism. The 94 Contract with America and the 2010 Tea Party revolt. In 94, they rode it out and got what they wanted in 2000. In 2010, they simply lied and stonewalled until 2016 hit like a ton of bricks. If they cancel the convention now, they not only lose the election, but more important to them they lose their party. No I think what we will see is more and more of the GOPe boycotting the convention. Then after the convention, they will hold another nominating convention. with some high minded name like, “ A Conservative Answer” convention. Please note, the adjective Conservative. It will be thrown around like pork barrel expenditures during the next 120 days.
As the old Cowboy told me when we partnered up 30 years ago;
“If you have to tell people what you are, You probably ain’t.


41 posted on 05/05/2016 12:11:34 PM PDT by Tupelo (we vote - THEY decide.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Cruz has said in the past that he will drop out when he has lost mathematical possibility to win 1237 delegates. Cruz lost that opportunity and yet stayed in there hoping for a brokered convention. He quit only after Indiana handed him one of his worst defeats in this election cycle.

Where is the SUDDENNESS?


42 posted on 05/05/2016 12:11:50 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote, you are actually voting for the candidate's rich donors!)
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To: hoagy62

No, Area 57 is correct. It’s the really super secret alien storage facility up the road from Area 51 (right next to Area 56)


43 posted on 05/05/2016 12:13:21 PM PDT by lafroste
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To: Peter ODonnell

In spite of what you are hearing, this has little to do with Cruz or Trump.
This has to do with John McCain and his political friends.

If Trump makes it to the General, McCain and his entire staff are history.
McCain and Schumer run the Senate and what they say goes.

Combined with a REAL fear in the Clinton Camp of Trump, this is what is delivering all this “panic” in the RNC.

The real panic is AZ and the upper levels of the DNC.


44 posted on 05/05/2016 12:13:39 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: Dr. Ursus

Actually, I think you and some others may be assuming the opposite of my actual motives, if you’re suggesting my post helps the RINO cause (I assume that’s the implication).

By calling a bluff, I hope to get this out in the open as quickly as possible. Do you think I have any control over what’s going to happen? I’m not even a resident of the United States. I have less control over these events than any of you might. Zero control. I would also fear the consequences of this outcome. But I don’t think that denying its possibility is helpful in any way.


45 posted on 05/05/2016 12:13:40 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (I am first in line to be Ben Carson's running mate as well as time machine engineer)
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To: Popman

Sorry, I thought that was required when I signed up here.


46 posted on 05/05/2016 12:14:50 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (I am first in line to be Ben Carson's running mate as well as time machine engineer)
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To: Peter ODonnell
I don't know...

The RNC is a 527 tax exempt organization subject to some regulation. They publish a set of rules and regulations, and Trump followed those rules, as did everyone else.

I would think that if challenged, it would be Trump who is entitled to all the accoutrements of the party, and not some rogue candidate who did not follow the 527 group's bylaws.

That said, I could see a renegade Republican candidate funded by the National Republican Senatorial Committee (NRSC) and other groups who might try to mount an independent run, but that candidate would not be entitled to the Republican designation.

The strategy would be the Cruz plan to keep Trump from getting 270 Electoral College votes. If they could force the election into the House, the Paul Ryan led Republicans would choose the independent Republican over Trump to become the next President.

-PJ

47 posted on 05/05/2016 12:15:31 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

I don’t think this is silly.

I don’t think it will happen, but it is not a silly thought.

I’ve thought similarly - that the RNC may simply say “we don’t care, Trump is not the nominee. We nullify it”. Or something like that.

Your scenario is interesting.

I don’t think, though, that they have the guts to do it.

Also, Prince Rebus is salivating at all the indirects he will get from Trump fund raising. Notice as soon as Trump said he’s going to take RNC money and donations, Prince Rebus is all aboard the Trump train.


48 posted on 05/05/2016 12:16:34 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“........the GOP will rally behind Trump. No third Party stab in the back for the Republican Party.”.....

If they try something like that, it WILL INDEED be the end of the Republican party. Basically it’s “suicide”


49 posted on 05/05/2016 12:16:43 PM PDT by DaveA37
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To: JennysCool

“Somehow, I don’t think the Republican party wants to anger the entire city of Cleveland for this nutty little scenario of yours.”

There are only a few Republicans in Cleveland. Rioters and looters might get mad at the missed chance for mayhem though!


50 posted on 05/05/2016 12:16:54 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Peter ODonnell

The push will be to co-opt Trump into the Globalist/Elite agenda of the Oligarchs so that overall nothing really changes no matter who is elected.


51 posted on 05/05/2016 12:18:55 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie

This I agree with, now back to your desk at CNN, you have important work to do in this regard (just kidding, I assume the reference is to a more musical Wolfie).


52 posted on 05/05/2016 12:20:24 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (I am first in line to be Ben Carson's running mate as well as time machine engineer)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Donald Trump could approach a microphone and utter the words “Write in” and walk away.

If you compile this strategy (Or any strategy) with Bernie wandering off the democrat plantation, the numbers simply will NOT be there for a Clinton presidency.

My prediction is a Clinton presidency. Always has been. I will vote for Trump and I truly believe that Trump has the numbers to win. I pray that our system isn’t so corrupt that my next prediction is correct.

Hillary didn’t even start to campaign until February. It’s as if someone woke her up one afternoon and told her she has to at least fake it.

Hillary operates like she knows something. She operates like the oval office has already been given to her. Her responses to every and any debate never comes from her. It comes from talking points. She’s turning bored and robotic in this.

I believe she just wishes she could kill the competition and simply be crowned the Queen (Not the president).

I firmly believe that if Trump doesn’t make republican nomination, that it is the end of the party. I do believe that Trump will carry enough right-wing votes that whoever the GOP puts up will be demolished.

I believe that in a fair election, Trump has the numbers RIGHT NOW to turn the whole map red. Mathematically, there is very little chance of a Hillary presidency.

Now if Bernie stays in the race (Chances aren’t good), and Hillary wins then the fix is in. There simply will NOT be enough math to backup the election. It will be rigged.

And rigging elections is all that Hillary and her ilk are about. They can’t win in a fair match-up in the USA. They have play games with districts and races. A communist never fights clean. They can’t.


53 posted on 05/05/2016 12:20:40 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: Peter ODonnell

LOL. This afternoon is dedicated to beard grooming.


54 posted on 05/05/2016 12:22:18 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Peter ODonnell

Dumb


55 posted on 05/05/2016 12:22:38 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: oh8eleven
Fifty seven is the number of states in Øbama's world

It's also the number of nations in the Organization of Islamic Cooperation. Quite a coincidence, eh?

56 posted on 05/05/2016 12:22:50 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Peter ODonnell

No way.. The GOPe Peaheads now know they can’t get away with anything blatant.
However.. I do believe they are up to something.. Their playing nice-nice reeks of it.. They aren’t giving up that easy. They are sneaky, lying SOBs.. Stay aware.


57 posted on 05/05/2016 12:24:09 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth
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To: Peter ODonnell

“I have no insider knowledge”

Yeh we can see that by wasting one full minute of our lives that we can’t get back reading your crackpot little theory. LOL!


58 posted on 05/05/2016 12:24:25 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Wolfie

This is my idea of a Trump-Blitzer conversation:

WOLF — You’re nuts, right? I mean, you’re just nuts.

TRUMP — Yeah, I have people working on it, I won’t be nuts by January.

WOLF — You will spare Buffalo, right?

TRUMP — Yeah, I will build a casino there.

WOLF — I knew you were crazy. A casino in Buffalo? Do you want to go broke?


59 posted on 05/05/2016 12:25:29 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (I am first in line to be Ben Carson's running mate as well as time machine engineer)
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To: Peter ODonnell

Note: I voted for Trump nine days ago. But . . .

I posted nearly two months ago, and repeatedly thereafter, that I would support Trump as the only acceptable candidate who could get a first ballot nomination. I also posted repeatedly that I hoped Cruz would stay in until just before the first ballot, because that would be the best thing for Trump.

It’s too late now, but if Cruz had stayed in as the establishment hope and then freed his delegates just under an hour before the first round ballot, those delegates could have voted for Trump but they would not have been permitted to support the nomination of anyone else. Yes, I know, that’s a sneaky trick, but it’s also a good one.

While I hope there won’t be much force behind my “I told you so”, and I hope you are wrong on the GOP cancelling the convention, I stand by my statement. Trump would have been much better off if Cruz had stayed. Cruz gave the opposition a just barely acceptable alternative and an almost but not quite viable option, which kept them from following any higher risk strategy. Those who hounded Cruz and trashed his reputation unfairly (and most of it was unfair), could end up regretting their tactics and the outcome. I just hope the price will not be too high.


60 posted on 05/05/2016 12:26:58 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Somebody who agrees with me 80% of the time is a friend and ally, not a 20% traitor. - Ronald Reagan)
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