Under the citizenship law Cruz was a citizen at birth, hence natural born, that’s all it means. He’s also thoroughly American.
Obama, if he were born overseas would not be born a citizen under that same law because his mother was not 21 years old yet. So if you believe his mother took a transatlantic flight while pregnant to birth him in a third world craphole village, then he was not a natural born citizen, and since he was never naturalized he wouldn’t be a citizen at all actually, though he’d be entitled to apply for naturalization.
He’s an internationalist commie toad who hates this country which is why some conservatives are so eager that he not be an American citizen.
Enough with the birther crap, really. Cruz is eligible, Cruz is American. No court is ever gonna say otherwise. Your precious Trump is winning anyway so why not cut the crap?
Thus if you were born in this country or territories of the U. S. and both of your parents were U. S. citizens at the time of birth then you are a natural born citizen. If you do not meet those criteria than what Congress has enacted is used to decide if you are an American citizen at birth.
Why is this so difficult for people to understand? Congress and the laws they create have nothing to do with natural born citizenship, but rather citizenship for those who can not be considered natural born citizens.
IF Obama had been born in Kenya....it had to do with the law saying his mother had to be....."physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions prior to the child's birth for 10 years, at least 5 of which were after the age of 14."
The "birthers" said she couldn't have lived in the US 5 years after turning 14...I THINK. There were so many crazy birther stories flying around.......it's hard to keep them straight....
Guess you'll have to ask Trump for sure.....since he seems to be "king" of the birther stories
If in 1776, we were able to find a guy to run for president born on America soil, certainly we can in 2016. It is a slap in the face to George Washington that Cruz dates to run for president in our great country. Let him run in Canada.
“Under the citizenship law Cruz was a citizen at birth, hence natural born, thats all it means.”
Not so.
‘Natural born’ means, that, by the very nature of a person’s birth, they can’t be anything but a citizen a designated country.
If a person’s circumstance of birth allows more than one nation to lay claim to their loyalty, they aren’t ‘natural born’, but merely a legal citizen of one or more countries.
In Ted Cruz’ case, no less than THREE different countries can lay claim to his allegiance.
This is precisely what the NBC clause was put into the Constitution to protect us from.
Simply put, if a person is born in country to two citizen parents, they can’t be anything BUT a citizen of the country of their birth, i.e., a Natural Born Citizen.
Nice summation.
Your post was correct in general terms, but got one detail wrong: The reason why a child of Stanley Ann Dunham and a non-U.S. citizen that was born in August 1961 outside of the U.S. or its territories would not be a U.S. citizen at bitth (and thus not a natural-born citizen) is not that Stanley Ann Dunham wasn’t 21 years old, it’s that she had not resided in the United States for at least 5 years after having turned 14.
The reason that we know with mathematical certainty that Dunham didn’t meet this second U.S. residency requirement (the first one—having resided in the U.S. for at least 10 years at any time in her life—she met in spades), without having to verify her travel records, is that to have lived anywhere for 5 years after having turned 14 one must be at least 19 years old, and Dunham was still 18 years old when Barack Obama was born.
So if you wish to use a shorthand of “Obama’s mother wouldn’t have been able to transfer her U.S. citizenship to him at birth had he been born abroad because ahe wasn’t yet X years old,” use 19 instead of 21.
But, as I said at the outset, that’s a minor detail in an otherwise correct post.
“Under the citizenship law Cruz was a citizen at birth, hence natural born, thats all it means. Hes also thoroughly American.”
That is a lie, because Ted Cruz is a naturalized U.S. citizen by the authority of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952, which is a statutory law for naturalization;, and he is not a natural born citizen of the U.S. In the U.S. Supreme court case, United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 18 S.Ct. 456, 42 L.Ed. said “A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized....”